March 29, 2013
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Boys will be Girls & Girls will be Boys
Boys will be Girls & Girls will be Boys
Homosexual marriage is over covered right now. And I have not been keeping current of the legal arguments in the two supreme court cases on that subject. Most of the writers writing about it act like they are talking about the law. But wow they do not know what they are talking about. Dudes read the court cases and arguments before acting like to know what you are talking about. These cases have nothing to do with red equal profile pictures on Facebook. I do not want to be another ignorant writer nor do I want to rerun my libertarian ideas on the states licensing so called rights. Hint look up the word license and read what it means.
Can a boy ever be made into girls? I am not about to touch the born that way vs not born that way discussion. This is not about the rarest of rares “hermaphrodites”. This is only about transvestites. Those poor folks who see themselves as being born a sex, they do not want to see themselves as. Guys who feel more comfortable as girls and girls who see themselves as a boy in the wrong body. A lot of laws are being passed saying that a transgender must be treated as the sex they want to be. And are in the process of cosmetic surgery and hormone replacement to make themselves appear to be. Legally treating transgenders, as the sex they want to be and often look like, seems fair until you start to look at …
The undefeated Fallon Fox
She has never lost a fight and none of her opponents have ever gone a full minute against her. She just over powers them all. Almost like a male fighter can do to a female fighter. Six years ago he (Fallon Fox) started becoming a woman. The reaction to this news
“She wants to be able to fight women in MMA? I say no fucking way! I say if you had a dick at one point in time, you also have all the bone structure that comes with having a dick. You have bigger hands, you have bigger shoulder joints. You’re a fucking man. That’s a man, OK? You can’t have… that’s… I don’t care if you don’t have a dick any more.”
Do you see a case for job discrimination in this one case? If you do isn’t that an admission that Boys can never really be Girls and Girls can never honestly be Boys?
Sometimes life is not fair and maybe we should not lie about that.
Comments (41)
Sports are already very unfair. You can’t get anywhere in sports unless you are doping.
Nice layout.
Maybe I should change mine.
@ShimmerBodyCream - Athletes already are on the edge. Just the smallest advantage is the difference between a champion and a also ran. Bigger arms, shoulders, hands, greater bone density, these are very big advantages when you are fighting
Are you speaking of biological sex or gender? Biological sex, as in DNA? No. And it sucks, though eventually there might come along some technology (gene therapy or whatever) that can biologically re-assign a person’s sex. I don’t know if they’re researching it or not, but still.
That said, being born in the wrong body, I can’t imagine that. What kind of extreme psychological torture that must be, even after a full transition. Even though I befriended a completely transformed M-to-F at one point, I still can’t say I have the remotest understanding of what that must be like. All I know is it must be hell, and for that reason alone we should recognize them in a social setting as the gender they wish to be (“gender” is not synonymous with “sex.” Gender is a social/psychological construct; sex is a result of biology/DNA). Alas, those on your side who believe that your “God” is repulsed by this would disagree, because your “God” doesn’t make mistakes even though he clearly demonstrates he’s a totally sadistic fuck-up by assigning these awful torturous traits to people.
That said, I don’t see that much difference between men and women in MMA or any sport really. With as strong as both of them are, I say just put both of them together and let them fight each other. It’s not all about physical strength either. If anything that’s a pretty small part of it. It’s also about agility, speed, and strategy. I know any of those ladies could totally whoop up on me, and I’m probably a lot bigger than most of them. When I did Swan Da for a short time, I got my ass handed to me by girls all the time in sparring matches.
I don’t think her record has anything to do with being M-to-F. She’s just that damn good.
@secretbeerreporter - The difference is huge, there are very few sports where a woman is not at a very big disadvantage to men. And fighting is were men have every advantage.
@trunthepaige - Right? But you can tell whoever the woman he is fighting against is already doped up. Basically unfair advantages already exist in sports everywhere. I think the gender issue is a very very small problem compared to drugs which exists in every professional sport. No way can you even compete in the olympics without doping.
In cases like this, they should use sex instead of gender in determining what category they fit into. I don’t see why anyone would have a problem with that. Why couldn’t trans people still identify as female but be in a different class with sex?
@SlackerSociety - Ask “layout by chainbracelets” she is so good
@ShimmerBodyCream - The natural woman in this video looks good and maybe she uses extra testosterone herself. I think she looks like the better trained fighter. But she could not hurt him and he took her out so easily. It was just power and maybe harder bones and bigger hands hands that just beat her up
@trunthepaige - I’m just speaking from my own experience in martial arts. Like I said, I’ve been beaten up on by many a woman, many of them half my size. I mean, how would you even police this? It’s easy enough to swap out DNA for the purpose of DNA tests and fool the sports agencies, just like it’s easy enough to get a “false negative” drug test.
That said, even under the assumption that males have an advantage over females in most sports, why should that translate to normal life and normal jobs that don’t involve sports? I mean, why would it matter if say a teacher or a lawyer is recognized as the gender they feel they are? With jobs like that gender makes no difference.
This is the thing that confuses me……why can’t a person be who they are in the body they were born in? If you must be the other gender, then who is saying only a boy/girl can do/be X, so in order for me to do/ be X, I MUST first be the right gender? Who is making a box for the gender to fit? And if the social structure set up for “gender roles” is wrong, then isn’t saying you have to be a certain gender before you can be you affirming certain gender roles?
@mtngirlsouth - That is the very thing I say. Accept yourself as you are. And I have seen more than one gender confused person agree with me. But nether of us can understand the issue so …
Human nature has to be the standard for these sorts of things. And in this case, human nature is as simple as the birds and the bees.
When we turn ourselves into knots trying to accommodate every possibility under the sun, mass confusion and ingrained stupidity are the results.
@secretbeerreporter - its easily policed they check for doping now. I think your experience is regather unusual. But you are talking about a far lower level of competition and she is in MMA, she is not just sparing . Look at the video. the loser was the one who made most of the better moves and delivered the most blows. Fallon was just brutally stronger. About your last question if there is one case there will be more. What they are who knows. But a transgender is not really what they look like. It is cosmetic
@trunthepaige - Well see, I hear the LGBT community say that gender roles are wrong, two fathers or two mothers can do just as well as one of each. That to say only X gender can do X is not the right attitude. Okay. I get that and really agree with it. But then, when talking about this, they do a complete 180 and start saying that a person MUST be X gender in order to be whole. It is inconsistent.
@mtngirlsouth - There is a significant percentage who change their minds mind transition. So its not so black and white. There is a reason it is traditionally has been called gender confusion
@trunthepaige - Unfortunately there might be no easy answer to this. I mean, to force them to be the person they feel they aren’t is nothing other than psychological torture, much like trying to force homosexuals to be heterosexual would be. However, maybe here there is a disadvantage to doing so. It is a tough issue. Psychologically torturing someone vs. giving another an unfair disadvantage? Tough pickin’s.
I think even with gene therapy described by beereporter, you are not going to be able to give someone who was born male (XY) female (XX) chromosomes (or vice-versa), at least not as I see it using the technology we have. I also don’t see gene therapy giving someone who has spent 18+ years developing male characteristics, ones that are associated with females (and vice-versa). I agree with you, this would give transgendered females an advantage in most sports. It is an admission that it is difficult to transform on sex into another. However, admitting this does not mean that I think it is wrong that people want to have sex changes and to get them. I do not know how I feel about them playing sports. The transgendered female will always have the advantage even when everyone is “doping”.
@secretbeerreporter - they can do all the cosmetics they want. Its where they want to say they really are their chosen sex and athletic organizations need to be part of the lie
@trunthepaige - Well, fine. That said, as a side topic, all of this just further strengthens the antinatalist platform. Even you, a staunch pronatalist, would have a difficult time arguing these people are better off existing than not existing, especially since you are against legally recognizing them as the sex they feel they are, and not allowing them to is psychological torture.
Well, just to clarify, I do not pretend to know how they feel, nor would I ever even attempt to stand in the way of anyone who wanted to change their gender. However, I am not convinced that it goes any further than the mentality, or that they were “born in the wrong body”. And I think the worst tragedy is that this aspect of it, the mental condition, is not even addressed for these people. They are encouraged to change everything else besides that, and are told that to suggest such a thing is to be interpreted as hatred or bigotry.
@mtngirlsouth - Same here I do not feel I have any right to stop them.
By the way, I LOVE your new layout! I love fairies and have always loved that pic. I have seen it in several colors, but never this one. It’s beautiful!
As someone who struggles greatly with gender dysmorphia I can see both sides of the argument. Personally, I know no amount of surgeries, hormones, or therapies will ever make ME feel like I was born in the right body (that is not to say it doesn’t work for other people, just not me). I don’t know exactly how I feel about the question you posed. I have personally accepted that life is not fair and I just have to try to be content with the cards I’ve been dealt.
Well, most women look at me and think they can beat me up. This world is not so crystal clear normal, where all the guys are strong and manly, and all the women are beautiful and love their bodies. The real world is full of sickness, and…
Even normal people are sick on some way, humanity is just a failed experiment and God has forsakened us. The white race has spent so much money trying to feel like the chosen race clean enough for God, but every one knows all races are puke, for we came from the vomit.
it doesnt seem fair for a man to change sex then want to fight women.
The individual rights argument on this matter falls apart when you’ve got a person in middle school, born a male, wishing to be a female, and it’s time to honor their “right” to enter the girl’s locker room for a shower after gym class. Do they have the “right” to be treated as a female?
I think a more valid question regards the born females who would be uncomfortable showering with a male, surgery or not. Shouldn’t their rights be defended as well?
@Ghillies_guide - I suspect they will just stop showering. The school will just go with the flow
So not “equal” rights at all, then, eh? hmm.
@Ghillies_guide - They rarely are
This is very true, no one is born with homosexual traits. Or a girl locked in a boys body, or a boy locked in a girls body. The Heavenly Father did not make anyone that way.
It says he made male and female. PLAIN AND SIMPLE. Bro. Doc
These are hard issues… Long time! Have a Good Friday!
God speed, ~ Pete
“But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us.” Romans 5:8
She shouldn’t be allowed to compete against women, but she should also be a she.
It’s complicated
Hmm that’s a tricky one… It reminds me of this story– http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santhi_Soundarajan. Basically, she believed that she was a woman her whole life and genetic testing revealed that she actually had a Y-chromosome– which can happen. If you’re born with a y-chromosome but you don’t have androgen receptors, you’ll end up having the physical traits of a woman and BE a woman for all intents and purposes– you may never even know that you have a y-chromosome. Sex and gender are such tricky concepts. She may be undefeated because she’s just a really good fighter.
Its in the DNA, you can change how you look physically, but at the end of the day if you were born an XX and have changed yourself to be an XY, you can’t ever truly be an XY unless you have some altered your DNA. I think it is a fair statement to make in this case.
I believe the great battle of the sexes stems from psychology. It is not merely the physical aspects, either changed or unmodified. It is a state of mine, from which our deepest prejudices and discrimination flow.
For a man to want to be a woman, I believe it is because he sees women as having an unfair advantage over men, and for women, the reverse is true with them.
It can also be from a skewed parenthood and the way they were raised or missed crucial and vital elements in growing from a child to a teen.
Anyone can be a man or a woman mentally to satiate the general masses. We have so many stereotypes we take for granted today and because of that, there is a true division, clear to see.
For a man to want to be a woman shows me that there was a problem, Freudian, and likewise for a woman wanting to be a man.
As for the MMA, that should not be permitted as (I believe in most cases) general man is stronger than general woman and he (she ?) would have an unfair advantage in that respect.
@BroDoc - I wish I had all knowledge but like most thing like this it is rarely genetic and when it is genetic fixing it would not cause a problems lke this one.
@Evangelist_Guy - Very hard and compassion is needed
@Nushirox2 - We need to admit that they are physically not real girls. Not going to get pregnant and should not be competing against real girls athletically. But in most ways I treat people the way they want to be treated. There is no reason to not show respect and kindness
@TheyCallHerEcho88 - That is still born that way. Her body did not fully develop as a man with a mans build strength and skeletal structure. No I am sure she beats the hell out of all these other super strong well trained woman, because she was not a she, just a few years before. She adjusts her testosterone to the legal limits and maybe beyond them during training. The other woman may be doing that was well, but she is genetically a man, and her body is built for it. She has the skeleton of a man, a mans hands, his shoulders. Hormones do not undo all the advantages of being a man in a fight.
@Thatslifekid - IN a sport where people can be hurt, I think we just need to admit life is not fair. You can make yourself be a girl, at least look like one, I wish her well in that. But no you will never really be one and you damn well are not going to dominate woman’s sports unless you are born a woman
i think it depends on how far in they are. if they are now anatomically female, then they should be allowed to fight females. same goes for men.
i also think it’s silly to assume that a man could take down a woman, no questions asked. my friend is a black belt and weights 140lbs. she can take down men twice her size.
@flapper_femme_fatale - I think its silly to to admit that men have psychical advantages in a fight. Even when they are the same size. And your friend would get ass handed to her by a man her size and her training. And she knows it. These woman are not in normal ranges anyway. They are unusual to start with.Fallon Fox has gone as far as medical science can take her. But her body fully developed as a man. Her bones are a mans, denser, thicker. Her shoulders are a mans, broader giving her longer reach and more room for muscles. Her hands are a mans hands. Bigger making them able to be stronger. Look at what she did to a woman who delivered more blows and looked like she was better trained. Those mans hands and the longer stronger reach of a man controlled that other woman. She took the blows and they did not hurt her (bone density is like armor) And with one blow put the other woman out
We have all kinds of birth defects that are acknowledged. Some are corrected surgically or with medication. Some just cannot be fixed. My hunch is that some are born in a way that makes them gay, but it is less than 2% based on what I have read in the past. I do not know about those claiming a gender identity problem, but it is in the news. it is obviously not fair for one born in a male body to then do the cross gender surgery and compete in athletics.
It is an unsettling problem that we are being forced to deal with in our culture. The gals and transgenders seem to have lots of political power. I guess the courts will decide for us.
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