Good points made I never thought of it in that way.

Interesting post for sure...

I've always had a problem with this thing called money, but I think that's a rant better suited for my own blog.

But you're completely right, the saying, "time is money" is definitely a meaningful one.

It makes me sick sometimes to think about how much of my parents life I'm taking in attending college. How much of my life was spent raising money to buy that flute in 10th grade. How more time is spent making this thing called money, so that we can be this thing called "comfortable" just so we can't enjoy it.

And to think that's what the government does with our money in the form of taxes.....

I'm not smart enough to respond to this. I don't know why, but it just does not sound right.

This is exactly why socialism is an abomination.  It assaults the liberty and dignity of the human being by turning him into a slave.

If I work and have money confiscated from me in order that it may be given to someone else for any purpose whatsoever, that means I have just worked for free.

Providing labor at no recompense is slavery.

One may say but all that confiscated tax money goes for a good cause.  If one says that they are being unethical.  For one cannot do good by doing evil.

Turning someone into a slave for the benefit of another is immoral.  That is what socialism does.  And that is why it is an abomination.

Money... :x

Most people don't want to think about things this way, but it is true none the less.   But there are some of us who were raised to think this way, more or less.   We are taught to be generous when giving.  We are taught to work hard to earn what we get.  We are taught to appreciate what we have.  We are taught that we are responsible for ourselves and our families.  We are also taught to respect those around us who work hard and are responsible.  

When someone steals from us they are stealing something good, because we earn honestly and honorably.  When someone takes from us they disrespect responsibility and hard work.  When someone steals from us they take away from those we would generously help those in need.  When robbing us those who take diminish what makes America a great place.  

When the government steals from us they diminish people.  When the government punishes any of us for success they steal greatness, and reward.... well, since you written this you're smart enough to know exactly where I'm going... 

Be careful, Paige.  You might be a radical if you keep posting like this...

. . . or you are a "minority" in a Democratic Republic.

This is exactly why I am so against high taxes from the government as well as income taxes...

@rhiannonator - I gather you don't mean men when you say minority, as woman are the majority.   It could be far worse such as being a minority in a democracy.

@trunthepaige - By minority I mean 'minority party' in government

@rhiannonator - Again it far better to be a minority party (temporary as that may be) in a Democratic Republic than in a democracy

@trunthepaige - yes.

That's an excellent way to look at it Paige, good post.

Ok....I agree. The Right wingers who push for lower or no minimum wage are like Slave owners.

I am not really buying the if someone makes 16 million a year and they pay 38 percent of that back to the society who allowed such an opportunity...Slavery.

@LoBornlytesThoughtPalace - I was going to reply to this post, until I saw your comment. You stole the words out of my mouth, and I could not agree more. Great and accurate assessment on your part. 

@tendollar4ways - Capitalists create wealth and they provide jobs for people of all education levels.  Uneducated people are not entitled to a minimum wage.  Uneducated people need to get off their ass and get educated.  That's they way it's done.

I teach high school in a town where over 60% of the people are on welfare.  Consequently, most of the children here are living for the next party and couldn't care less about getting an education.

Screw that! 

I don't want to work like a dog so my hard earned money can be confiscated and given to a bunch of low class breeders so they can keep squirting out more low class breeders.

@ShamelesslyRed - You are very gratious, thank you!

If you do someone a favor, you don't usually expect money. That does not make you a slave.

@trunthepaige - Great post.  Taxes aren't needed for anything.  Without them, people could afford to pay for necessary services as needed.  Pork funded pet projects could also be supported by people who are actually interested in them.  Much less burden on the people to support things they don't need or likely will never benefit from.

@LoBornlytesThoughtPalace - The educational system needs to be made voluntary so that time, money and effort aren't wasted on the disinterested.  And fairly priced all the way up through whatever degree you want; so that all people who are interested can shoot right up into whatever career they want; depending on merit and jobs available.  Then those who choose no education, or for whatever reason couldn't find the time for it, can choose whether to work for wages offered to available labor positions which require little/no education; but at least they would be able to find work.

i think your right on.  i was telling my girl friend about this weird idea i thought about after having this insane dream.  it makes so much since, and its gratifying to see someone else say it.  What sort of punishment would you say the guys at Enron deserve given the flow of reason that follows?  Or even the people at the fed who come up with some really bad ideas, that will certainly reduce the value of that time you spent making money? 

@jasonwl - It would be interesting to see what would happen to the price of college if tenure was eliminated, and government aid was removed as well.  Especially if we instituted a flat tax, while cutting corporate tax as well.  It probably wouldn't even be that hard to get a degree paid for, as it could be feasibly possible that many corporations would be willing to pay for the education of those who work under them already, but would like to move on up.  Even if that weren't the universal case, so many more jobs would be available that with enough frugality, a household could probably work out the cost on their own. 

@Olebob - That is called willingly giving of yourself. Its only slavery if its force on you

The problem as always in implementation. All systems will have corruption, so no matter what system we adopt there will always be "slaves" of one type or other. I agree that in theory if we all just had our own money to do whatever with that would be nice, the problem comes when one town decides they don't want to go anywhere and so they totally neglect their roads to the world outside, then anyone who wants to go through is unable to, or becomes slaves to maintaining a road they seldom use. I know it's a flawed example I'm just playing devils advocate. Don't get me wrong I believe free market structures provide much more responsibility and motivation, however we also need a overarching structure to take care of agreed upon essentials by a majority. In other words, there will ALWAYS be someone who could, based upon this definition, call their situation enslavement.