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Just a girl. I am a contrary one, but beyond that I am not so unusual, if that is unusual at all. I grew up on a farm, only 35 miles outside of Seattle, closer to Tacoma. Tacoma is a city I lived in for a while. I am now back at the farm, having fully succeeded in not following any of my parent’s advice. Sadly it was all very good advice I didn’t follow. So here I am, eating crow. Were did that saying “eating crow” come from?

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Wednesday, October 03, 2012

The Debates edit drinking game

 

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It will be very hard for Obama to go into these debates using his campaign's strategy of. "Okay I admit things suck now, maybe I'm not so great at this, but Romney is Satan'. Romney is so damn moderate he is dull. Trying to paint him as extreme and evil with him sitting there, that would fall on its face.  Romney's  campaign's strategy of  trying to say that Obama's economic and foreign policies have failed. All anyone needs to do is read a newspaper or live on earth? Hell yes they have failed and everyone knows it. Its been four years now and Obama's party ran the budgets two years before he entered office. Blaming Bush is not going to fly anymore. Maybe on the war but with Obama trying so hard to take credit for killing Osama Bin Laden. You cant be both a hawk and a dove on the same day.

Obama best strategy would be to lie big time (but carefully) and try to bore everyone into not watching the debate.

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Here are some of Obama new taxes on the poor and middle class

Starting in 2014, anyone not buying “qualifying” health insurance – as defined by President Obama’s Department of Health and Human Services -- must pay an income surtax to the IRS. The Congressional Budget Office recently estimated that six million American families will be liable for the tax, and as pointed out by the Associated Press:  “Most would be in the middle class.”

 

 

 

1 Adult

2 Adults

3+ Adults

2014

1% AGI/$95

1% AGI/$190

1% AGI/$285

2015

2% AGI/$325

2% AGI/$650

2% AGI/$975

2016 +

2.5% AGI/$695

2.5% AGI/$1390

2.5% AGI/$2085


Yep there he goes taxing the middle class.

But Obama taxes the poor most of all:

Lets talk about the tax called inflation. We see that tax everyday at the gas pumps and the grocery stores. When a nation borrows more than can ever be paid off, you need to lower the value of your money in order to ever pay it off. Or as Obama's federal reserve chairman calls it "quantitative easing" (Link). Intentionally devaluing your money but not doing it officially.

Inflation is the cruelest tax of all, it hits the poor hardest of all.

Inflation effects the price of food and fuel more than anything else,  these are international commodities where the value of the dollar means almost everything. When your dollars are worth less than they were last month, those in the Middle East demand more of them. They are not going to accept your cheapen money as if it were worth the same as it once was. In other words $100 a barrel of oil today is the same as $56.73 a barrel was in 1990. In other words $100 a barrel for oil today is rather cheap so enjoy paying what you are paying for gas. Its is still going to go up, it will not stay down unless the worlds economy stays down. As of right now inflation has started to jump. Yes it is very much due to our monetary policies. Thongs are going get far worse as soon as we get out of this recession. Obama made this mess far worse but the results of it. Well we are doomed to bay for Obama's failing no matter who is in office. Lets hope Obama in not there to make it worse before he goes The dead housing market is the only thing that is holding the official inflation numbers down today (yes they would be a lot worse). But if you are not buying a new house, rents are higher, gas is higher, food is higher, hell its all higher all while wadges have dropped. We have less money to pay more

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Are you better off today that you were four years ago?


Obama's goal is to deflect, confuse and bore people on the subject so they stop thinking about the way things are. He can not talk about his record. He needs to just be likable and hope Romney comes across as mean and scary. If he can do that his ads and his extreme support in the media will win this for him.

"You may be worse off today than 4 years ago. But you are better off with the devil you know than this evil super devil named Romney"

 

 

 

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These debates will be interesting. Both sides are downplaying their debate skills. I'll bet that tonight, they will be at each other's throats like crazy!

Posted 10/3/2012 10:44 AM by jmallory Xanga True Member - recommend - reply

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If the liberal media would simply report the truth about Obama and his policies instead of lie this wouldn't even be a contest.It still amazes me how people trust this news media still, when you can see how one sided it is.Yes,Fox can be one sided too,but they DO give both sides.Thing is they give the truth about Obama and it's 4 against 1,so I'd say they hold their own pretty dang well.


If Obama were to win,who is he going to blame for the economy he inherited?He will still blame Bush somehow and for some reason people will believe it.Makes no sense at all

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@jmallory - As both of them are not bad at debates and Romney has at times been great. The downplaying is lets just say disingenuous. I would think Romney would be looking forward to it as he needs it. He needs to be seen as he is. Not evil far far from it. He needs people to be comfortable doing what they know they should do. Change things because they are not working now

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@Somefishytales - The forecasts are for international recession. It will be hard on Romney if he wins. 

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@Somefishytales - Haven't you seen?  The left is already blaming the republicans for being the party of "no" even though they haven't filibustered.  It has been the dems that have filed for cloture time and time again, as well as the dems that failed to pass a budget when they were the majority in the house.


I'm not a huge fan of Romney, but he would at least buy us some time before total economic collapse.

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@grim_truth - I love it. The democrats file for cloture over and over again then say the republicans are setting records. 

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Oct, Nov of 2008 the world was about to end. My sales were shit and our company and the world in general tetered on edge. We are MUCH better off than were were then.

I will be in Washington in a couple of weeks. Can I swing by and pick up my check?

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@tendollar4ways - As soon as you send me a copy of you taxes. Your taxes need to be over 14% of your none adjusted gross income. I love it I hope Obama tries that. Its really bad but Bush did it reallu he did. im doing the best humanly possible. Really things are good

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@tendollar4ways - I set sales records in 2008. 

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@tendollar4ways - and many folks are not.  Salaries have fallen while costs of essentials have gone up.

Posted 10/3/2012 11:19 AM by grim_truth - recommend - reply

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@grim_truth - his extreme liberal run state took a dive two years before the rest of the nation. and its not coming out of it anytime soon. He is just used to working in a depressed market. maybe his competition is now out of business 

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@trunthepaige - I will bring them and show them too you. What is None Adjusted?

Posted 10/3/2012 11:23 AM by tendollar4ways - recommend - reply

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@tendollar4ways -

Line 22 on your form 1020
Posted 10/3/2012 11:29 AM by trunthepaige Xanga True Member Xanga Premium Member - recommend - reply

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1040? You lost a bet and now ya won't pay. Typical Conservative.

Posted 10/3/2012 11:32 AM by tendollar4ways - recommend - reply

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@tendollar4ways - as I paid moire than 14 last year i do believe you its just that $200,000 is the wadge it normaly takes to pay that much. And lets be fair line 37 on your form 1014

Posted 10/3/2012 11:33 AM by trunthepaige Xanga True Member Xanga Premium Member - recommend - reply

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i am better off than 4 years ago.  the markets are doing better.  and the economy has improved, although much slower than we'd like. 

to say ALL of obama's policies have failed is to misspeak.  rather, quite a few of his policies have benefited the country.  on the foreign policy side, he did catch bin laden, unwind the iraq war, and the world on the whole appreciates the USA more, plus most foreign leaders would rather see an Obama administration than a Romney administration.  hillary clinton has done a great job diplomatically although i would like to see less covert drone attacks from this administration. 

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You didn't do well in math did you.

Posted 10/3/2012 11:37 AM by tendollar4ways - recommend - reply

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Well if things are going to collapse anyways, then... I'm guessing the poor are in for a treat.
Posted 10/3/2012 11:44 AM by RulerofMasons - recommend - reply

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I heard where old what's-his-name went out on the streets again to ask people who they would vote for in 2012. He asked them things like did they think MCCAIN and PALIN would do better against Obama than they did last election, if they thought that Ryan was good running mate for OBAMA, and if they thought if Obama won this year would he finally find and kill Bin Laden. Not ONE person caught any of that. And I am POSITIVE that the republicans voting for Romney would be just as dumb. People (for the most part) are so stupid they vote for their party and don't really even know what's going on. 


We're ALL going to be worse off next year regardless. 
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Obama and Democrats absolutely hate poor people. It's kind of surprising that more people can't see that. 

Anyway, I'm not watching the debates. My mind is made up based on what they think about the issues and their track records, which can be read on any of their websites, minus the oratory skills- which may be a big part of what got us into this mess in the first place. 
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@tendollar4ways - A's I would say most have no idea what they are paying. And my stuff comes from the IRS so if you want to argue be a fool

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@tendollar4ways - its real simple add up all you made its already been on your tax form. now look upo all of the income taxes you own. Only income taxes. What percentage of your total income is the amount of federal income taxes. Do not add state income taxes or any other taxes. Lets not get into your retirement and medical issues. 

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@WaitingToShrug - Im only watching to see what vast uninformed see if they even bother watching this. 

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@mtngirlsouth - No they are not as dumb. The totally ignorant and uninterested are more likely to be Democrats. But they also tend to forget to vote or never register. If we had 100% voter turn out the Republicans would never win

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@trunthepaige - Hey, if you can do it without getting depressed... go for it! Let us know how it turns out.

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