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Just a girl. I am a contrary one, but beyond that I am not so unusual, if that is unusual at all. I grew up on a farm, only 35 miles outside of Seattle, closer to Tacoma. Tacoma is a city I lived in for a while. I am now back at the farm, having fully succeeded in not following any of my parent’s advice. Sadly it was all very good advice I didn’t follow. So here I am, eating crow. Were did that saying “eating crow” come from?

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Monday, October 15, 2012

But Bush did it

 

 

Tu quoque, the appeal to hypocrisy, ( you did that as well ) is a logical fallacy that attempts to attack an opponent's position, by saying that their opponent failed to act consistently in the past. If they really held the belief they are arguing for, they would have done things differently in the past. This dismisses someone's point of view based on criticism of the person's inconsistency, and not the position presented. Its a personal attack that avoids the subject, a diversion from the topic.

This attack could be used against a veteran for taking a position against murder or even war, by saying that the veteran had killed many people when he was at war.

It is often used against a parent who is a recovering drug addict or alcoholic, for telling their child not to do drugs or get drunk. "But you did it"

And in politics it is used every time you point out that someone they support is lying, being a jerk ,or acting incompetently.

Even if what they say is true, and most of the time its not a good comparison. That fact does not justify their hero lying does it?

 

Do you think that if the other guy does something wrong, it gives you the right to do the same thing?

 

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I have the right to die. but it would be wrong to inflict such upon myself.

Posted 10/14/2012 9:39 AM by notforprophet Xanga True Member Xanga Lifetime Member - recommend - reply

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First of all, do you honestly think going to war against terrorists, Al Qaeda, the Taliban, Saddam, Obama, ect, was a mistake? Who did what wrong?
Posted 10/14/2012 9:47 AM by RulerofMasons - recommend - reply

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@notforprophet - @RushmoreJ - fixed :)

Posted 10/14/2012 9:54 AM by trunthepaige Xanga True Member Xanga Premium Member - recommend - reply

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@RulerofMasons - If it is wrong, or isn't wrong, is not an excuse for the next guy to do worse things or even the same things.

No I do not think it was wrong to kill terrorists. I thing recent history has shown bush might have made a mistake. But it was not all wrong or all a mistake Obama has kept most of Bush's policies intact so Obama agrees with Bush a lot. And Bush's statements were not an intentional lies. But even if you think they were. Obama has not been given an excuse lie because of it 

Posted 10/14/2012 10:43 AM by trunthepaige Xanga True Member Xanga Premium Member - recommend - reply

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"Do you think that if the other guys does something wrong, it gives you the right to do the same thing?"

no.  but the issue is that conservatives come across as self-righteous and holier-than-thou in their attacks.  if you don't want your past brought up, don't try to act like you've never done anything wrong yourself.  that's called lying. 

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@flapper_femme_fatale - Conservatives self righteous? What the crap would you call how Biden acted in the debate.If EVER there was self righteousness,its by that man.It's funny to me how you all can accuse someone of something you do the very same thing but when you do it is perfectly fine,but when they do it,oh my,they are such a self righteous bigot homophobe.The shoe fits on both feet my dear.

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@flapper_femme_fatale - In other words you fall for that logical fallacy every time its used, if you like the person's politics who is using it. 

Posted 10/14/2012 1:17 PM by trunthepaige Xanga True Member Xanga Premium Member - recommend - reply

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I REALLY do want to know who Obama is going to blame for the mess he inherits if he wins again.Gas is twice the cost it was when he became Pres,unemployment is double,tons more folks have lost their houses to foreclosure and I could go on and on.Will he just keep blaming Bush or will he blame Romney and Ryan even tho they will not have had a thing to do with HIS policies.Hypocrosy run amuck should be the slogan for Obama now.

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@Somefishytales - The funny thing is if Obama wins the fools who support him will blame the Republicans for the fact that Obama polices keep failing. Look at California it has been a mess long before the rest of the nation was if far worse than the rest of the nation and its not getting better. The Republicans have been out of power in that state for a generation, yet fools they are, they still blame the Republicans

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I won't take the bait this time cuz i'm a bit short of time, so here my opinion:


I think it's stupid to base your vote in who wins in the blaming routine, I don't even like it within a marriage, distracts the attention away from real issues and possible solutions so falling into that (which both parties do) seems to me a very low trick to fool the voters.
I think candidates should be gentlemen and don't name each other or the rival side within the contest but only talk about their own political, finantial and social plan. That would be the stuff I'd like to base my vote on.
Posted 10/14/2012 1:47 PM by xXxlovelylollipop Xanga True Member - recommend - reply

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@trunthepaige - Funny that you mention CA. Romney got an 8% bump in the polls there. Will CA vote R.? Highly unlikely. Are people wakin up? Definitely.

Fuck-a-doodle-doo! One need only go to the grocery store or the gas station to grasp the reality of inflation.

As to your question; two wrongs don't make a right. While Romney is "blamed" for passing many liberal policies, the fact is that he was the governor of one of the most liberal states in the country. And this was done on a state, not federal, level. In fact, that was one question in the Romney/Obama debate that stood out to me.Romney dealt with an 87% D. congress and reached across the aisle to make great things happen for the state. Obama's reply? Sometimes you have to put your foot down with the R.'s. Thanks, Mr. Prez. Is it tee-off time yet? 

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I blame Bush for everything.  It is his fault.

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@xXxlovelylollipop - bait? i do not understand that. But your comment was good

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@Kellsbella - What is funny is that a 8% swing does not put Romney anywhere near a tie. California is not exactly opened mined these days

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@TheTheologiansCafe - I'm still blaming Reagan

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@trunthepaige - just saying I don't have time to get into large debates today :)

Posted 10/14/2012 2:17 PM by xXxlovelylollipop Xanga True Member - recommend - reply

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@xXxlovelylollipop - Not likely to get into a debate, I agree with you. Sadly that way does not work very often

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 what you do in the past, stays in the past as far as I am concerned.  'Two wrongs do not make a right' is debatable and case sensitive to me though. Say Nixon and the Watergate scandal.  Jimmy Carter, did the same but righted and centered it by doing so eh?

Posted 10/14/2012 5:15 PM by Amandascowen - recommend - reply

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"Do you think that if the other guy does something wrong, it gives you the right to do the same thing?"

No, because that's just stooping to his level. Be the bigger person in the situation.

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"What the crap would you call how Biden acted in the debate."
wouldn't know, i didn't watch it.  debates are for the undecided voter.  
"It's funny to me how you all can accuse someone of something you do the very same thing but when you do it is perfectly fine,but when they do it,oh my,they are such a self righteous bigot homophobe."
being a bigot and a homophobe are unrelated to whether someone is self-righteous.  i wouldn't call the Pope self-righteous (i do believe he has more faith in God than in himself), but i WOULD call him a bigot.  
but yes, i do single out conservatives.  why?  because you're the "religious right" that preaches about how gay people, welfare recipients, and sexually active teenagers are destroying America... while demonizing anyone who disagrees with you.  even the OP of this post can't admit that Bush screwed up, yet she's happy to blame Obama for everything under the sun.   and THAT'S why i'll take Obama at his worst over a conservative at his best ANY day.  you haven't proven that your conservative politicians learned anything from the Bush administration.  you can't run on a purely "I'm not Obama" platform and expect to have your past mistakes overlooked or forgiven.  your god forgives... i don't :)
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@trunthepaige - see the above.  Mitt Romney is just another Bush.  why would i want that back in office?

Posted 10/14/2012 7:27 PM by flapper_femme_fatale - recommend - reply

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@flapper_femme_fatale - You just may be one of the most blind people to reality on Xanga LOL Oh well!

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@flapper_femme_fatale - in other words yes you fall for every lie and fallacious argument you want to believe. And hear no truth you do not want to believe. I hope you make it through the coming election in good shape. 

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