I was looking at some old writings of one of xanga’s hard core atheists. I was reading his more personal site, as apposed to one of his many other sites. He was crying about not being able to find a woman, watching porn, hating that he could not get any sex. He talked of his adventures stalking and annoying woman. In other words a very strange, socially inept, angry porn addicted little man.
On another site I read of past misery and present pain.
On another guys site, I read again of no woman wanting anything to do with him. ‘Oh they say they want brains but really they just want good looking dumb jocks’. Not that he has any way knowing if these good looking guys are not also smart as hell.
Do you see a pattern because there is one, over and over again there is one.
Happy healthy atheists? Oh course they exist, there are lots of them. But these happy faithless ones are not evangelical atheists. So when you see that little clan circling their wagons together and belittling others. Remember what they really are, they so do not want to be alone. They only feel good about themselves by making themselves think they are better (smarter) than others. They can only do that by belittling others. Because deep down inside of themselves, they know it’s not true.
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I think the women they want, the ones who want intelligence, really do want intelligence. Unfortunately for them, those women see intelligence in tolerating other people’s viewpoints, not brow-beating people for what they believe.
Damn atheists. They are going to burn in that fiery lake…
@Garistotle - Every girl I have ever known wanted a men who at least smart as they were. My husband is scary smart, my father is a genius and both of them are very good looking men.
@Paul_Partisan - Well maybe, but you’re in the last paragraph of this entry. As in you have a life outside of not believing in God.
My Dan is both, its like you said about yours he is scary smart & can remember almost everything he has ever learned. He also teaches himself how to do things, like build porches, with no help.
They are sad people looking for excuses for their ‘misfortune’
@Olyachka - And they would find companionship if they were simply not so bitter. In that ones guys case, he would also need to not be a stalker.
Hint: whining about not being able to get a woman is not attractive.
nazi’s aspire to atheism…
@faerieshadow - Rule number one: Make a girl feel special because you like her. As opposed to he wants you because he is desperate and you’re his last chance. The bottom of the barrel.
@apyus - I believe they were fond of pagan mythology
I think alot of people put up a front to mask their own personal pain.
It varies in nature to be sure, passive agression, comedies, extreme beliefs are many times distractions from what people don’t want to deal with
@trunthepaige - it was Bloomburg i was suggesting
My boyfriend is a very smart good little Catholic boy. You are right, people defined by their Atheism are usually pretty strange and angry. In high school, I had a stalker boy like that who tried to beat up my (then) bf. hha
totally thouht this was going to be a theologians-esque bottom 10 xanga uglies or something.
edit: maybe it [surreptitiously] is.
@Kontzicles - yes
@WyomingSheepRanch - No but after writing it I realized there are a lot more little we hate everyone except ourselves groups around here. I see the atheists because they come after me
@apyus - More details? I would like to see what you are talking about because I do not know.
I never understood the obsession of some athiests to constantly bash christians. Do they think if we hear it enough, we’ll change our minds?
@trunthepaige - the comedy on fox news is always aspiring to nazism quite openly for that matter
@Irish_Russian - If we were only smart enough we would be like them (unhappy). And in of their cases they have dreams that we would go out with them.
Sad to say but there are some Christians on Xanga that don’t seem a lot different.
@trunthepaige - That’s ok, I’m happy being a dumb ass, but the offer was thoughtful of them, no?
i know of such a group here, sometimes led by the whinings of an 18 year-old girl. i am trying so hard to become more intelligent in my own viewpoints, but atheists DO need to surround themselves with like minds because in the end, they are reaching WAY out there to maintain their belief. i guess i would say the real atheists, (as opposed to crowd followers) are more likely to be well educated in the world system, doctors, scientist – type people. and many thank you’s for writing this. ♪
@radicalramblings - I suppose they exist, what Christian site would you say is comparable to “in reason I trust” or “fatal is life”? Atheists are all stupid scum being the typical entry?
One guy on xanga runs an atheistic apologetics site were i I once got him to round about admit that he thought all Christians were of a lessor intellect. But he was using the “positive atheism” approach and would not say that out loud. Not that I did not already know that what he was doing. I have read some of the bigger atheistic evangelical sites on line and saw were he was being influenced. And I do remember his old site where he was a bit more open about his hate.
@Irish_Russian - mistake?
You describe a sad guy but what has this to do with faith?
@nattata - It is three guys and I could have done more. It seems a faith in atheism that leads to evangelism, well these guys are the norm
It’s so true
sometimes it’s more than just differing viewpoints; it’s their own unhappiness rearing its ugly head and making a mockery of other people’s beliefs, because calling people ignorant makes them feel better about themselves
I’m not fond of people who’s whole life seems to revolve around their non-belief. It gets boring after a while, people need diversity.
I am not a Christian, but I am not an atheist either. I don’t belittle anyone, no matter what their religion is.
I think the angry atheists want to believe in some sort of higher power deep down. That’s why they’re angry, because that wanting to believe and have faith conflicts with their atheism; in other words, they are at odds with themselves. Of course, this will come to belittling others, and just in general unhappy and miserable…because they refuse to admit their needs.
Of course, the happy atheists don’t have this conflict with themselves, they are happy NOT believing in a higher power.
You gotta love the types that blather on and on about “logic” when their whole reason for being an atheist is a series of ad hominems.
“In war, you shoot the enemie, not the hostage.” -Donald Miller
@trunthepaige - so you’re sayin im hosed… oh well, i still have my xbox.
On the bright side, cheese is a delectable addition to almost any cracker. Wait, what were we talking about again? My tiny brain and its constant need to devour cheeses!
I don’t know how many of these people are sad or not. But I do know that I cannot imagine living without the faith that I have.
And that’s all I’ll say.
@faerieshadow - pretty much. whining isn’t attractive at all, no matter the subject.
i’m a happy atheist-leaning agnostic who has a strong distaste for religion. sorry that all these people seem bitter though.
Conformation bias much?
so basically you stalked this dude’s page, poked at his life and called him pathetic… and then criticized him for stalking other people and calling them names?
… hypocrisy is cute.
IMO, Evangelism is rarely pretty… from nigh every source, it tends to be “my way is better than yours, so stop doing things your way and start doing them mine.” I tend to fall into the category of belief that preaching should always be less than discovery; there’s more to learn than there is to know, etc.
I will agree with you that sites that proclaim to be for no other purpose than disintegrating somebody else’s views are almost never worth reading… as above, if there’s nothing at least semi-original to say, then I get bored pretty quickly. But still, I wouldn’t pick on them personally, since lord knows I’ve had bad weeks/days/months. Oh yea, and I don’t want the bad karma ~.o =P
@Dargon - Some things are rather hard to miss
@Endrath - Reading sites is now called stalking, interesting. You do know what that makes you. It is three different dudes.
I’ve noticed that about the world. It seems like the radical ideological dissenters both political and religious are the people who’s lives are f#%ed up the most. If they’re not getting laid or they can’t make ends meet financially (usually due to laziness) then they have to whine and scream about how it’s society that’s messed up rather than they. Happy, content people don’t start revolutions and are seldom seen running rampant atheist blogs.
@The_Female_Essence - Several years ago Astronomy Magazine ran an article about a gathering of Astronomers and Mathematicians. The conference was unusual because the 2 disciplines normally don’t collaborate (it is like in academics, each discipline tries to explain the world from their point of view and avoid collaboration) Anyway the writer commented that it is difficult to get mathematicians and astronomers to talk because most of the mathematicians are atheists and most of the astronomers believe in God (or at least some sort of higher power) I guess the conference went very well and everyone was surprised at the positive level of interaction.
Personally most of the atheists I have encountered on Xanga seem to be angry because they feel that they either have been or are being mistreated or somehow abused by Christians. For some reason they feel that this gives them the right to be verbally abusive, hateful, condescending and demeaning.
Uh-oh, I see a repeat of this coming! Although that guy was religious, and saying that may have been in bad taste outside the Pittsburgh area…
Either way, for the most part I agree completely with you. All of the atheists I personally know who are happy, well-adjusted, and satisfied with their lives, are generally the ones who don’t rant about it constantly.
I think your observations are valid, and I agree with some other readers who mention that many of the most radical, aggressively evangelistic representatives of any particular dogma seem to share similar backgrounds. Your counter that these specific types of atheists have a sick need to strike down Christians in particular is also a good observation. But should you overlook the social dynamic that leads to this specific disparity? Some have pointed out that these types of individuals betray that they feel somehow mistreated by a dominant social order, which they perceive as Christian. And, in fact, Christianity does represent the predominant faith system/cosmological paradigm in this society. If they were coming up in a Muslim country they might be trolling Islam with comparable vigor.
@dirtbubble - Likely they would, but Muslims are not constrained to turn the other cheek, so that is a far more dangerous a thing t do in an Islamic nation. Which is likely the only reason that it is rarely seen. Bullies are not known for their courage.
@jupiter312 - They say he had been religious in his youth, but that is what most mothers want to think. Not “getting any” seems to be a common theme among those with an unreasonable hate.
@trunthepaige - one man I knew who was a sectarian christian turned anti-Christianity espoused many of these ‘a-theistic” themes for a period of time to “piss christians off” before leaving xanga. I know the guy, and he is no more atheistic than I am Buddhist. He also used many highly sexual themes promoting loose sexual behavior. He just had a lifetime of bad experiences with Christians, including his parents being conned by a Christian financial consultant. He then got involved in a sect of biblically justified racial seperatists that used to have a strong following on xanga. This guy was known as a vocal leader in many of his pontifications of the groups policies. I met him through his responding to one of my early posts on faith. While he was known as a flamer, you could talk to him past his flaming and he would admit to logical fallacies.
When he left the group, he started sharing how many in this group had ten or more xangas, and how they would post and comment on their own xangas to give the appearance that the group was larger than it was. So eight people might easily have 100 xanga sites giving the appearance of a much stronger online community than there was irl. They kept these sites because they were shut down fairly regularly by xanga . Many of these were young single guys who posed some of the sites as females as well and they would flirt with themselves to give the appearance they were some kind of stud, like anyone really cared…
Anyway, this leader turned to posts that had him being called a atheist, a Christ denier, and those are the terms I can repeat. He used a lot of female images and sexual references. This sent his former buddies insane. They never realized he was mocking them and just no longer had used for organized religion. Many atheists are not true a-theistic, but are more along the lines of the detached God. It may sound horrible , but I do not overly concern myself with it all.
@ProvokingThought - What is funny here is there is one guy with an obsession with me. He is one of these atheists I mentioned here. I have traced him to so many fakes sites by his IP address’s that I have lost count. And I keep finding sites that block my account that I never seen before. When I go around the block 90% of the time I find a site with the very same type of weird porno on it that this guy is obsessed with. (Bondage and vomiting).
Multiple sites that talk to each other are a running theme.
ryc: you didn’t feel THAT nervous. it’s me! i don’t imagine there’s much that unnerves you. you do what you want.
@TheBigShowAtUD - Only one thing really. I’m a big sissy about being along. Really bad almost a phobia
well, it’s good that you’re not, then, yeah?
@trunthepaige - Well, I can’t speak for any other women, but my first thought when I’m looking for a man isn’t, “I hope he’s a full of anger and hate. It makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside!” =)
@trunthepaige - I thought about mentioning that, but it’s beside the point. Yeah, I’m sure there are individuals who fit that profile in the Muslim world who probably best just keep their heads down.
@trunthepaige -
For me, the most frustrating thing about Christians is that so few of them actually seem to follow what their religion teaches.
Frequently I meet prideful and condescending Christians who follow lifestyles indistinguishable from most of secular society, yet they seem utterly blind to the fact. They fight, drink, and fuck like anyone else….they’re just less honest about it. Because they’re still part of the majority, they’re always at an advantage in this society. I can tell you that it’s frustrating sometimes.
No matter how you spin it, Paige, or however many anecdotes you provide of individual atheists who pick on religious people…atheists always have the raw end of the deal. That’s why, whenever I meet someone I have strong reason to believe will treat me poorly for being agnostic, I just lie to them. It saves me trouble.
People like that aren’t worth my honesty.
@Teufels_Hofnarr - Nothing to argue with you about here. Maybe in degrees but what is the point of that? You are right but less right . . .
Everyone has issues. Just because three atheists say they’re not getting enough sex doesn’t mean atheism causes depression. Hell, I’m atheist, I’m on my period right now, and therefore I’m sure not getting enough sex and it’s making me unhappy. What does that have to do with my atheism? It’s not like if I believed in a god and prayed to him to give me sex, it would take away my period or something.
And what about all the depressed religious people? Is it because they’re religious? Do they belittle atheists because they know, deep down, that what they’re saying isn’t true?
@SerenaDante - Let me know when you see sites that spend all there time calling atheists stupid and the cause of all evil, rarely talking about much of anything else. If they exist they are hard to find. Even with several atheistic groups trying to get follow evangelistic atheists to present a happy face. Trying to find a such a evangelical atheist one who is not in love with ridicule . . . let me know when you find that person I have never seen them. The closest I have read to that is Dawkins. The guy who calls religion child abuse.
I think I made it very clear that I did not find atheists to all be unhappy losers. But I have found that evangelical atheists are all bitter. So many atheists and agnostics are not that way at all, but they do not run atheists web sites.
@trunthepaige - I’d consider myself an “evangelical atheist” (or at least your definition of that, because that’s not something I’d ever call myself). I’m not bitter about anything except that my boyfriend’s older brother ate my piece of cheesecake.
@trunthepaige - Not to sound rude, but I find the misery I see on numerous Christian blogs and in my numerous Christian friends hard to miss. Same goes for the happiness I see in numerous atheist blogs and in my numerous atheist friends. I’ve not actually tried to compare the two, but I see both happy and miserable people in both camps, as well as in other non-Christian theists.
I’ve seen people who went through times I would not wish on anyone, and it turned them away from God, and in turning away, they felt more in control and improved their life. I’ve seen people who went though similar times, turned to God, and felt guided and improved their life.
Truth be told, I probably know more militant, miserable, and outright rude Christians than I do atheists. However, I credit this not to their faith, but simply to the fact that Christians outnumber atheists, so while the rude and obsessive Christians outnumber the rude and obsessive atheists, the same goes for the nice ones as well. Numbers there.
Perhaps the trend you see is true in your sample set, I am not denying that possibility. However, I cannot help but wonder if you are disregarding the happy atheist evangelicals to prove your point (this isn’t always a conscious move). Conformation bias is something everyone, myself included, is susceptible to.
@Dargon - I still have never seen an Evangelical atheist who was not bitter, full of ridicule, or outright hate. And maybe it is unfair to notice that they all complain about life, because so many people do. But it is running 100%. And when someone is trying to show you the error of your ways, it would be nice if they had a life that anyone else would want.
I never said that atheist are all unhappy or that all Christians are all full of joy. I do stand behind what I did say. But I would love to meet a person who proves me wrong.
@trunthepaige - Perhaps this is a matter of perception. When one is convinced another’s beliefs are incorrect, challenging those beliefs, even in the most polite way possible, can easily be seen as an attack on the beliefs, if not the person. I have used the phrase “if you look at it logically” and been accused of calling the person stupid. I have pointed to scientific evidence and been called closed-minded. Additionally, I have been called stupid, foolish, and closed-minded, both in the blogs and in real life. I cannot point you to them specifically, I tend to end the conversation and move on when direct personal attacks start flying.
I find myself wondering if I would be considered evangelical by your terms. I do enjoy talking theology, and I am admittedly a bit anti-religious. However, I tend to talk about it only when the situation warrants. I may be a tad bitter, but I have plenty of good times to balance out the bad. I dunno. Just wondering on that front.
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@Dargon - Evangelical that would be if promoting your beliefs was of a religions importance to you.