February 18, 2013
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Porn, Dogs and the Industry that Feeds Them
“My whole reason for being in this industry is to satisfy the desire of the men in the world who basically don’t care much for women and want to see the men in my industry getting even with the women they couldn’t have when they were growing up. So we come on a woman’s face or brutalize her sexually: we’re getting even for lost dreams.”
“The illusion is created, that women are really in their rightful place and that there is, after all, no real and serious challenge to male authority.”
I just read a piece on what pornographic images are the ones that are most downloaded on line. It seem that the worst and most degrading are the most popular. At the time the research was being done the number one most downloaded image was titled. “brunette with a huge horse cock in her tight pussy”.
Is porn all about degrading woman?Is porn a method of gaining some satisfaction for those men who are almost impotent, so far as relationships with real woman are concerned?
Is porn basically a pleasure suited to men who hate or are afraid of woman?
Is porn something that makes these weaknesses worse, or do you think it is harmless?
Comments (115)
I don’t know but still one of my highest searches on my site is “David’s Penis” and “brother has sex with sister.”
I think one is at 80,000 hits and the other is at 40,000 searches. I would have to look it up.
I don’t know. It’s not something that I’ve thought a lot about. I used to watch porn all the time, damn near every day…but it’s been months since I did that, and the few times I’ve watched it since then, it doesn’t even turn me on anymore. But, I can see where it’s degrading to women, and I’ve heard some bad things about the industry about using women.
1/3 of porn viewers are women. That doesn’t mean degradation is not one reason, but definitely not solely.
I think it really just depends on the person watching it. my boyfriend and I watch it from time to time, but not because we like to see women get degraded. there’re plenty of links out there to men getting the same sort of treatment, so I guess it really just depends on what you’re into watching.
@ShimmerBodyCream - I agree. it’s certainly not just men watching, and the numbers may be even higher without women being accounted for who feel ashamed for doing so.
I don’t know.
What I have read online while prepping for my web page design class is that the most popular site subjects are porn and those have been at the top for years. I never bothered to look into what kinds of porn where most popular in that genre. One of the many theories of ‘why’ they are most popular is men are factory wired to be visually stimulated.
I don’t know the pay scale in the porn industry. The actors and actresses may be making good money. Is it taking advantage of or abusing women (or men) when they are being paid to act the part? Again I don’t know, but I tend to think ‘not’.
It is about the money. That is almost always true.
Maybe the men who are paying money to view are the ones being tricked with fake sex. Beats me. There are a lot of ‘takes’ on this issue.
Can you link me to the above mentioned video?
Our society’s view of sex has degraded to the point that the majority of people are numb to what it is supposed to be. Porn can be addictive, and sex itself can be addictive. And just like any other addiction, after so long the addict needs something stronger to get the desired affect.
Pron is like any drug. You become accustomed to and immune to the effects. You need greater and greater amounts to have the same impact. In order for pron to keep getting the pervs up the porn has to be harder core than the last stuff.
A person cannot objectify another person and not objectify themselves. Pron poisons the whole person, and any semblance of relationship they may have.
probably not a single answer to a very good question. certainly, men who have a desire to exert power find it easy to do so by dominating women, particularly sexually.
i think there are also people who have fetishes that are generally harmless, but love being able to see photos of their desires.
and i think there is just the matter-of-fact nature that we are sexual beings, and so sexual images and stories will always appeal.
Porn wants to convince every male a small penis is a worthless penis so guys like me end up paying to get my dick bigger. Is it true Trun? Could my penis satisfy you?
I don’t see anything wrong with porn. I watch it, I’m sure most of the world’s population watches it whether they’ll admit to it or not. It’s completely normal.
There’s a porn for everything, it’s not all rough sex and gang bangs. There’s porn that specifically ‘female friendly’. There’s hentai, there’s disney princess porn, etc etc.
While being a porn star might not have been her dream growing up, I doubt the majority of porn actresses are victims being forced to perform against their will.
Here is a pornographic and at the time degrading image. Today it’s high art by a master and looks like something too tame for most teens. Men feel a need to exert power over women and have for as long as history has been written. Why? Can’t figure it out. But various statements in the past year have led me to believe it has to do with powerful magical uteri (able to “shut down during rape” and “graveyards of dead babies from using birth control”).
Porn is a bit like prostitution in that there is a certain amount of choice for both parties much of the time. This is not to say there is always choice for both parties but there often is. Power and control are really at stake and many women in porn have power over those who buy their products and control over what they do in them. Do they need to do more and more to continue getting sales? Probably. I’m not part of the industry but in all other business types I’ve worked for if you offer a product that has multiple other business’ in direct competition you have to continue to entice buyers to get your product. In porn there are only so many videos you can sell of the same thing. Eventually you have to do something new and with the ease of the interwebs and every phone a video camera the market is flooded. Free, live, paid for, revenge style or on a dvd. Porn is available in seconds and there is no need to go to behind a curtain in a weird creepy store anymore.
I don’t think it’s the buyers fault and I don’t think it’s the actors fault. I think it’s greed and a desire to get in on the money action. Sex sells and there is so much available extreme forms of degradation is a way to get noticed in a flood and hopefully make a little cash.
It’s because ya’ll a bunch of horny scumbags
I have rarely heard rational thoughts about porn from women. It is clear that at least some women are trying to rationalize about something they don’t experience.
if we did look at the whole thing rationally, we might ask as well but is it about the hair, makeup, purses and shoes? I really don’t get that but I don’t spend much time obsessing about why others do.
I also don’t get the Lady Gaga thing.
Although I am a libertarian I totally get why people are liberal–who wouldn’t want to legally get free stuff for no work?
By the way, since we are all sitting around worried about what people are doing in the privacy of their own homes, aren’t the people locking their kids in cages and starving them to death scarier? I know they scare me more.
And in closing, all this stuff about degradation and objectification is in your mind so you take responsibility for it. It makes about as much sense to me as that guy who keeps saying that George Bush spent all his free time plotting to commit 9/11 with his own two hands WTF? If people say Bush was an idiot I don’t have a problem. But an evil, genius mastermind? WTF?
it bothers me that people can’t see what’s wrong with porn….there are so many things wrong with it that it would take a long time to explain. and the people who see nothing wrong with it will not become dis-affected with porn because of some literary rant against it. abortion is worse than porn in that it deliberately KILLS an innocent life – and yet it remains legal after 40 years. So, what we are dealing with here are perversions of the SPIRIT that refuse to change, to repent, and to reform. Jesus exorcised unclean demonic spirits from the perverts of His day. The problem presently is that priests/bishops do not exercise their exorcistic powers BECAUSE their own spiritual integrity has become so compromised. After all, it is the responsibility of the Catholic Church to bring humanity to salvation – there is no other name than “Jesus” that can deliver humans from demonic control.
Am I the only one who quit reading the comment above when I got to the word “Jesus”?
@H2O_mElOnGeEk - I would guess so as you are the next comment right after him
@mortimerZilch - A lot of things are worse than watching porn. Making it for one uses a lot of drug addicted sex slaves.
@poetryman69 - SO
the organized sex slave industry than makes a lot of our porn is in my
mind? And the fact that porn strangely seems to be causing a raise in incidence sexual dysfunction in younger men, is that in my mind as well? Thinking of woman as objects does not bother you, but what about those two things?
one hug, one real smile, one touch in real life, are more exciting than all the porn movies in the world.
@mortimerZilch - I loved ones touch, a smile, real relationships. Much better no doubt
@shiroshiroshiro - Well yeah
@stargazerlillikat - I think its everyone’s fault. I just want to know when some warped judge started calling a filmed crime, protected free speech. I would guess he had been bribed or black mailed
@Pure_Taint - Lets ignore the porn industry which uses sex slave (very common) even the US porn instury is big on getting drug addicts to do very painful things. Read this and see what it is doping to the viewer. http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2010/jul/02/gail-dines-pornography
And oddly a lot of the guys can no longer get it up
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/cupids-poisoned-arrow/201003/porn-goes-performance-goes-down
@RulerofMasons - You are so crossing every line out there. Are you trying to get blocked?
iceland is discussing banning porn. I’d like to be able to follow that discussion going on in the oldest democracy in the world…I think it is mostly based on the objectification of women. any inside info on this would be appreciated…ty.
@Cares2theWind@datingish - Not much to say I agree with you. I just see the problem as more wide spread. I believe we are starting to think the sexual and relationship problems we are seeing all around us are normal. The way men are treating woman as normal. To a small degree yes it has always been like this, But really no it is not the way it has always been, it is a new thing. Here are 2 usful articals to read on it.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2010/jul/02/gail-dines-pornography
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/cupids-poisoned-arrow/201003/porn-goes-performance-goes-down
@mortimerZilch - Iceland is doing a lot of interesting things. Being a small democracy they can act quickly on an issue.
@Such_are_you - Exactly
@mtngirlsouth - Again you are seeing this the same way I do
@tendollar4ways - Ewww!
@C_L_O_G - Pay is low for all but the top few and it is very few, and the industry uses a lot of drug addicts and sex slaves from eastern Europe
@Love_in_102 - I think few of us really want to think about it. What is really happening in that industry the damage it is cause the viewers, the sex slaves, the drug addicts, the perverts who are set in motion by this stuff. We watch the mild stuff, get excited, have fun and do not what to think about the harm that industry does because that would make us feel guilty.
But the mild porn is actually the minority of the industry. Most of it is hard core and harmful. It is very much like an addictive drug
I think porn should be legal as long as all participating are doing so of their own free will, but I do believe those who are addicted to it are prone to becoming desensitized to degrading others, and even violence. Ted Bundy named porn as one of the things he thought might lead one toward the life he led as a serial killer.
@lonelywanderer2 - Then why should it be legal if it helps create a Ted Bundy, causes sexual impotence, and uses a slave trade?
I STOPPED LOOKING AT PORN OKAY
QUIT MAKING POSTS ABOUT IT
@crazy2love - What you have heard is mild. Woman are killed in that industry. Think sex slavery thing Russia and the middle east.
@SlackerSociety - It was only when you found out it could take the lead out of your pencil that you stopped
@ShimmerBodyCream - It is screwing up pretty much everyone. Who the hell came up with the idea crossing swords
@trunthepaige - I’m not sure it actually CAUSES any of those things. As for making it illegal, it would never work. As long as there is a market for porn, and there always will be, it will exist.
@lonelywanderer2 - Existence is not the issue so much as to lowering its exposure and cutting into its damages. Giving it a smaller market is very easy to do. The research is rather conclusive porn is extremely harmful. If I gave you links would you read them? Or would you rather just do what you do and not feel so bad about it?
@trunthepaige - Hey Ted Bundy was funny
@SlackerSociety - The TV Ted Bundy was very funny. The real ted bundy was not so funny
@trunthepaige - I do know what you’re referring to. I’ve read into quite a bit over the years. I don’t think anybody can rightfully argue that it’s a good, safe industry to be working in. but what can we really do to stop it?
Sorry. I didn’t realize the rulerofmasons was not allowed to cross lines. I’m sorry, and yes, the truth hurts, I’m sorry I got to you, I’m sorry for having an opinion and thinking for myself, I’m sorry for not not minding my own business, I am rulerofmasons, I should be allowed to cross lines.
@RulerofMasons - Asking if I would like your penis, has little to do with opinions, and lot to do with being out of line. Learn the difference
@Love_in_102 - Internet filtering, Make any porn found outside of an XXX prefix a large fine. Simply enforcing the laws with the same vigor the the movie and music uses will work just fine. Treating porn like evidence in a prostitution case would drive down its profit. Paid for sex and filming it, is still paying for sex. The porn industry is already afraid of the laws on underage workers. If they fear that then give them more to fear. And put them in a place that can be filtered.
Its rather easy its just that there is a lot of money being made on porn. Its not a rights issues at all
@trunthepaige - so you’re saying producers should be allowed to make only specific kinds of porn?
@Love_in_102 - Right now its a free for all. If I had my why i end it all but that will never happen. regulation and control is what can be done. We can keep porn from being wide spread among 13 year olds
@trunthepaige - where does the 13 year old thing come into play?
@trunthepaige - Does it affect some people negatively? Sure, of course it does. Are they the overwhelming majority? No. Almost every big business in the world has some dark seedy underbelly. Like our imported goods being created by overworked, underfed child labor. Or food industries producing crops for ethanol, which basically destabilizes food prices around the globe.
If you want to boycott everything that you view as morally corrupt, be my guest. But these things are legal, and a few bad apples won’t ruin it for the rest of us.
If porn stars do drugs, so what? They chose to get high, they chose to do porn. It’s none of my business what they do with their bodies, or do for a paycheck. They do rough porn because they get paid more, not because someone tied them to the bed.
Porndogs sound like a delicacy.
@trunthepaige - great articles you linked. thanks! i like clair dane’s a little better, as she touched on how porn affects relationship building and normalizes violence against women. important points. the other was insightful, but it sounds like the excessive masturbation is the direct problem to erectile disfuntion – but i heartily acknowledge that easier access to porn will likely increase the masturbation frequency.
anywho … thanks again. i enjoyed learning a little more, especially given my own place in life.
@Love_in_102 - Porn hurts everyone but some more than others. Making it harder to come by would help with the harm done to normal sexual development.
@Pure_Taint - No it hurt most people, though no one whats to admit it once they start watching it. Are you really trying to compare child labor to sex slavery? Do you think watching porn for your amusement is worth the damage it is doing? Its an industry that hurts people at both ends those who watch it and those used to make it. I am not taking about those who become addicted because they were having fun, though I have compassion for them as well. I am taking about girls taken into slavery and forcibly addicted to heroin (while being raped) so they can be controlled as prostitutes and for porn. This is not at all rare and a very high percentage of the Russian porn Stars are actually sex slaves
@trunthepaige - oh! I gotcha. I agree, it definitely needs to be more regulated and the access to it needs to be more controlled as well. like Facebook, there’s no way to monitor how old the users really are.
Most of the porn industry is male-centric. Not only that, it’s actually pretty racist. Nobody talks about it. When they talk about “interracial” porn, it’s referring to a black pornstar and a pornstar from another ethnicity. An Asian pornstar with another non-black pornstar is not labeled as “interracial.”
There are female-centric porn out there. For these, there is no dom or sub. They’re like the love-making scenes in romantic movies, except you see everything.
@Love_in_102 - yes it could if you treated it like on line cigarette sales. Not old enough to have a credit or bank card your not old enough for porn. And for the exact same reason, both are bad for you and worse for the young
@trunthepaige - yes! I agree, indefinitely.
@StupidSystemus - I have seen it. Its less common, very pretty. its just very good looking people having very normal sex. Its a niche market
@trunthepaige - falls under free speech and has been ruled as such repeatedly in the courts. Many judges many times. Bribes again fall under greed and money which are the core of the issue.
@trunthepaige - I’m simply stating that any large corporation is going to have a dark side. It’s not unique to porn.
Sex slaves end up in far more places than just porn. Like on the streets. Illegalizing porn will have little to no impact on the sex trade. Sex sells in all shapes and forms, they don’t need porn to have a constant demand of it.
People can do what they want. People can watch what they want. Plenty of ‘detrimental’ things are legal. Prescription drugs, alcohol, cigarettes, McDonald’s. It’s all personal choice. We don’t live in a nanny state, nor do I think we should.
I’ve been raped and molested. Do I blame porn? No, that would be utterly ridiculous. I blame the specific people that did it.
@Pure_Taint - sex slavery does bother much then, oh great so your desensitized to the idea. Porn makes these people a lot of money without the porn industry they would need far fewer girls and make a lot less money. Simple economics increase demand and those wishing to make money will provide all of the porn you need. Your rape is insignificant compared to what happened to these girls. Their rape happen about 10 times a day
@RulerofMasons - i hope one day someone tells you how unattractive such a question is….
@trunthepaige - They’d simply redirect those girls to other things. Various forms of prostitution, brothels, massage parlors, or different kinds of video porn. It’s not like with porn gone pimps will think “Oh, hey, I don’t need you anymore for this job I guess you can go on your merry way.” Instead of a porn star, they’ll just become an escort. Without porn, consumers will demand different things. I truly do not believe that getting rid of porn will decrease the number of sex slaves.
Not every porn star is a sexual slave. You can’t make something illegal just because a small percent of the industry may possibly have originated from something illegal.
I fail to see how the exploitation and suffering of a woman for sex, is any worse than the exploitation and suffering of a child for cheap labor. We don’t ban imported goods, we ban CHILD LABOR. Just like you don’t ban porn, you ban SEXUAL SLAVERY.
I do believe pron is harmful to watch. It’s been something my husband struggles with and it has negatively impacted our relationship in the past.
My type of porn addiction started when I was 14. I was born again at age 30 and was finally able to overcome it after about 10 years. For 10 years I read nothing except the Bible annually. I finally had relief over this addiction. I think it is true, but I say humorously, that after 10 years of no porn and replaced with scripture, my lust became normal. lol
@Pure_Taint - Its called economics with less money to be made off these girls and fewer customers (porn trade) they have less need to provide so many girls. Less need of fresh girls to be raped on film. You are really arguing where you have no argument. I’m thinking that porn has become very important to you and you do not want to feel guilty. The billions of dollars flooding into the sex trades is making a much bigger market for slaves. Its a fact deal with it
@HUMOR_ME_NOW - Desire for sex is normal and good. But sadly porn plays on this normal desire and makes it abnormal
@firetyger - If it was not addictive your husband would simply not do it rather than screw with a good marriage and good sex. But his struggle says that it is addicting enough to risk both
@trunthepaige - Lol, I don’t even watch that much porn. I just don’t see a huge problem with it, nor do I think it should be in any way illegal.
Yes, demand from PORN would decrease. But demand for sex would not. Nor would those operating it be content with losing revenue. So they would find other ways to use the girls. New variations of porn and prostitution. Those girls wouldn’t be freed. They’d just be moved into something else.
@Pure_Taint - You are having a hard time understanding a simple true. There would be less need of sex slaves if the demand for porn was less. Its a fact that less porn would equal fewer sex slaves. There would be less of a demand for them. And porn demands that its workers look fresh. Prostitution does not need that and as it not abusing girls as violently as porn they last longer. Saying your okay with porn means you do not care about more girls being forced into slavery
I just did a post on this. LINK
I hadn’t heard of the sexual disfunction in younger men. Interesting. I am tempted to go with my favortie conspiracy nut, the one who thinks that George Bush is an evil mastermind who caused 9/11 with his own two little hands. That guy would say that the government is intentionally poisoning young men and young women.
I still say that incidents like that little girl who was shot by religious radicals in Pakistan because she wanted an education or the girls on the buses in India who are getting raped are of far greater concern than say the porn stars who are trying not to get AIDS in California.
Now as for sex slaves, confusing that crime with porn is not useful. When I think of porn I think of porn stars in California killing themselves for money. Now since they choose to believe that condoms or whatever is going to save them from sexually transmitted diseases I am too much of a libertarian to tell them that they can’t or even shouldn do it. Just don’t ask me to pay for it and be honest about what you do for a living so I can stay far away form you.
If someone really wants to talk about sex slaves then the world is much, much worse than you can ever bear. Think of worse things that one human being can do to another and realize that in countries where the law treats women like they are some sort of property, such things are done and either ignored or even condoned. I still think Western women are aiming their guns in the wrong direction. I believe that if Western women actually understood that there are entire nations wherein the law allows honor killings and “viriginity testing” you wouldn’t give western men and their tiny, tiny auto erotic fantsies a second thought. There are women who actually need your help in the third world. Your boyfirend and his porn addiction are just lame.
By the way, if we are indulging in pyscho socilogical fantasies, consider this one:
Watch a nature documetary. Watch a lot of them. Notice that the domininant male fights off other males and then has sex with as many females as he can.
And now for something completely differnt. When the ancient kings of the Bible got to do whatever they wanted, what did they do? They had as many wives and concubines as they could physically handle.
If we were rational beings, we might take yet one more data point into account and then draw a general conclusion. Go to any legitimate dating site you care to name and just by reading the profiles of the women what would you say is the greatest complaint of women about the men they date? A lack of fidelity? The notion that the guys act like they want to have sex with as many women as possible?
You can’t handle the truth! How do I know? These facts have been known to you for all your life and still you repeat nonsense like “men degrade women.” Just like the animals in that nature documentary, left unfettered, a normal man woule have sex with as many women as he could. What stops him is our society which has lots of rules that greatly benefit women AND men. After all, if we were more like the animals the men at the bottom of the totem pole would get NO access to women.
And so we come to modern times when ANY man can have access to what ALL men want. Vicariously, virutually, in cyber space, and in his own mind, he can have sex with as many women as he wants. Which is what his biology is telling him to do.
Sorry ladies but men really are as simple as those rutting animals you see in a documentary. Fortunately women control our baser impulses in a ritual known as marriage. Which helps in another ritual known as rearing children. The sacrifices of our base impulses are all for the greater good but those impulses never go away except in the fantasies of women.
I just noticed the notion of some people using drugs to addict women and sell them into sex slavery. An interesting dilemma for the libertarian. I am not the libertarian theorist I should be so I am not quite sure how to parse that one. In theory, people using drugs, selling sex, or even exchanging sex for drugs, are not my business. I don’t care for any of that but as long as the participants are adults, over 21 years of age, mentally competent and acting of their own free will, it’s not my concern.
However, intentionally stealing the free will of another in order to force them into behaviors they would otherwise not freely enter into is troubling. Maybe there is some libertarian theorist who has that one figured out. I have seen million dollar athletes give up their lucrative careers for drugs. On the other hand, I don’t want an all powerful, central government that can prevent me from making my own mistakes. There are folks who want to make it against the law to eat a cheeseburger.
@poetryman69 - I can see your dong your best to be a good libertarian and running into the fact that somethings that look victimless at first are not victimless in practice. So does a libertarian do. Its not so hard even a libertarian knows that the government has a place. Protecting the innocent is one of those places.
All porn needs to be on a XXX part of the net. Only off of this area is it a crime. And all porn workers need to document their status as having a free. This would include drug testing., Much as we test truck drivers. Most libertarians are in favor of testing prostitutes for STDs this is little more than that.
Comprise can be found few would not agree to some level of regulation of the Porn industry and its workers.
@tendollar4ways - I love when people use the adds for their profile picture. LOL
I think that a recurring compulsion to view or share porn is a problem. If anyone’s relationships interfere with porn, then I’d bet that porn is a compulsion for that person — men or women may suffer from porn addiction. Otherwise, I think that porn typically interferes with relationships. Therefore, I think that using porn is a poor decision.
@H2O_mElOnGeEk - LOL
Why don’t you just accept the proposition that porn is a pleasure for the men who don’t get enough real sex? It’s simple. If you just listen to us rather than trying to analyze what some spin doctors want to say about it.
It’s harmless and has nothing to do with morality.
[1. Is porn all about degrading woman?
2. Is porn a method of gaining some satisfaction for those men who are almost impotent, so far as relationships with real woman are concerned?
3. Is porn basically a pleasure suited to men who hate or are afraid of woman?
4. Is porn something that makes these weaknesses worse, or do you think it is harmless?]
1. Not entirely.
2. This seems likely. Although, since I believe sexuality exists on a different continuum of relationships, just because a person satisfies sexual desire through porn does not mean that they can not relate to women in different domains, such as the workplace.
3. No. Some women watch porn too. Of the men who do watch porn, not all have a fear of women nor hate them. I originally came to porn through curiousity. But I admit, porn is horribly contrived and phoney and it teaches men some bad lessons sometimes.
4. Porn is harmless.
Your questions are biased, they only include extremes. They ask whether the world is black or white, but in reality it’s about all the shades of gray in between.
@curiousdwk - And they become less likely to be able to enjoy real sex. And of course no ooe cares how the porn is made. part of the porn stimulated fantasy is that it would be easy to find girls who enjoy gang bangs and painful sex
@tjordanm - I found out long ago that no matter who much evidence I would bring to you on this. You will still call it a victimless crime. The damaged did in some way bring it on themselves so you say who cares. enjoy your porn
@bolt99 - they are valid questions if you cant answer them Okay
@McScarry -
1, lets say only 60% degrades. That is still a butt load of degradation
2: The porn uses woman mostly so that shows what they really want is a women. Making porn a sad lessor existence
3: Some wowmn still mostly men by a long shot unless we count vampire porn
You do seem to see its faults you might consider getting away form it.
4:Harmless? A lot of it is made using Russian sex slaves but lets not talk about used girls.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2010/jul/02/gail-dines-pornography
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/cupids-poisoned-arrow/201003/porn-goes-performance-goes-down
@Hunt4Truth - Seems a good measurement of something not being good for you. Its hurting your relationships but you will not (can not) stop
@trunthepaige - Well Its because I’m long, and I’m strong, and wanna get the friction on
@SlackerSociety -
@trunthepaige - The subject interests me, and I would definitely read anything you provide me links to.
@Colorsofthenight - You are seeing things again homey. That is my Drivers Liscense photo. I had been drinking alot that day but the red really brings out the brilliant color of my stach.
@lonelywanderer2 - What interests you most. Porn’s negative effect on its users or on the girls being used? I doubt I need to tell you that with higher demand (and more money) the pressure to get more girls for the industry is higher. In other words controlling pimps, drugs addiction as a controlling tool, and actually slavery have a larger market to fill.
The best sources are sadly in book form.
These two books look into the social and psychological problems caused by porn
Wired for Intimacy
Pornland: How Porn Has Hijacked Our Sexuality
“pornography works in the most basic of ways on the brain: It
is Pavlovian. An orgasm is one of the biggest reinforcers imaginable. If
you associate orgasm with your wife, a kiss, a scent, a body, that is
what, over time, will turn you on; if you open your focus to an endless
stream of ever-more-transgressive images of cybersex slaves, that is
what it will take to turn you on. The ubiquity of sexual images does not free eros but dilutes it.”
That is just a start but here is two links that sort of touch on the harm. And you do not need to buy them
http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2010/jul/02/gail-dines-pornography
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/cupids-poisoned-arrow/201003/porn-goes-performance-goes-down
@trunthepaige - You leave shitty evidence, bad conclusions, need to be asked 3 times because you don’t listen, and then leave without a word like some retarded 3 year old.
@tjordanm - sure i do. I think your response here made my point to anyone reading it
@trunthepaige - Most people know I say dick things, and most people know I’m substantially smarter than you are, and anyone who read our discussion saw you make a number of irrelevant comments and then disappear. You can’t also say “no matter how much evidence I show you I’ll never convince you!” without sounding like a complete moron, I’m sorry.
@trunthepaige -
Most sex slaves have no part in the porn industry, they’re forced to work in brothels or as sex workers forcefully prostituted around the world. They have little to no part in videos. Getting rid of porn wouldn’t rid society of sex slavery because prostitution had existed long before porn. Also sex slavery makes the business men partaking in it far more money on average than porn producers on average.
I agree that a lot of porn is made from a male perspective and projects male fantasies of women, but most women in professional or amateur porn are willing participants. It’s a big assumption to think many or most women in porn are sex slaves. Why would anyone with sex slaves put them on video when those women are obviously missing people?
I do agree with porn having negative cumulative effects on society, but that’s where our agreement on this post stops.
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@essien - Oh please sure all those Russian and asian girls doing all those very painful things. Whatever makes you feel better while masturbating to it
@DougX831 - true trying to get someone whose sex life consists of lots of masturbating to porn to see the truth. They just do not want to believe it. And if they can no longer stay erect without Viagra with a real woman,because it. I am telling to give up their main sex life or feel bad for the girl in the S&M porns they have grown to need
I’m glad you’re still trying to help people. I wish I still had the same hope.
@trunthepaige -
Hahahah. I’ve seen people try to discuss with reason with you, so I won’t waste my time either. Just came to give you a bit of truth because I have no idea where you pull many of your ideas from.
I think a lot of people with disagree with you here, simply because they feel guilty for watching porn. I was sex trafficked as a child and more so I speak for the girls I saw come out of other countries and get treated worse then I was and let me make it known under no circumstances do I, or anyone that gives half an ass about me, watch porn.
For the person that said “why would they risk putting somebody in images who are missing”. Are you stupid? A. Those images are almost 100% nontraceable. B. Most sex slaves come from third world countries, you won’t hear about them missing on your local news station. C. Most of the time the girls aren’t even “missing” they’ve been SOLD by their families for food or they’ve been told they’ve been taken to America for “school” or for better “work”.
Sex trafficking is a sick crime and it’s growing rapidly.
@tjordanm - you got sorry for what? You are sorry… oh, I get it! Never mind.
@tjordanm - You are rather sorry that is true
@FallenSafely - The blindness to it is amazing but I think you hit on the real reason for it. They like their porn and do not want to feel guilty
@essien - so do you have that bit of truth? Because you did not show anyone all that much. The idea that cutting back on the sex industries profits would not help slow down sex slavery is … well do you really believe that?
@Hunt4Truth - jesus christ. You look like an 80s porn actor who was forced to retire due to hepatitis.
@trunthepaige - every time I put in the word “sorry” in an Internet discussion, every wannabe Canadian comes at me with se overly stretched and lame shit twisting of what I said.
@tjordanm - Yeah thats it, your not angry are you, no I did not touch a never here at all
@trunthepaige - what the christ are you saying now?
@tjordanm - Some people just have the hardest time seeing what others see so easily. so you just keep on making yourself look great here.
@trunthepaige - What? Some random amphiboly that you’re all biting at since you have nothing else?
@tjordanm - You may call me Hunt. Sir Hunt if you insist. What is in your mouth?
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@trunthepaige - I’ll throw giving up porn on the same list of “Things I should do and won’t” along with conserving water when I shower and giving up eating meat due to cruelty to animals.
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