February 21, 2013
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Global warming. We need to do more!
This is a very serious issue and we need to do more about it. Admittedly the theories about anthropogenic global warming are not proven facts, but the climate cycles are facts, all geologists agree with what I am about to say (not most all). No one is arguing against this, the following is a fact not a theory.Our current warm period on this planet has lasted about 11,600 years, roughly 600 years longer than the average. We are about 600 years over due for an ice age (end of where no one disagrees with me) If the theory of man made global warming is true we might be able to stop what would be the greatest of all disasters. Imagine a third of all of north America Europe and Asian covered in year round ice?
Mass extinctions, the northern parts of the western world be totally depopulated. Billions of people would die.
Ok guys lets do out part to save the earth. Lets have a big barbeque and buy ourselves a big four wheel drive truck with a V8 engine. Lets go out in the woods, with a keg of beer, and party with a big bon fire every night. Turn the damn heat up, and drive faster. This will be doing the right thing and having a great time while doing it.
If we all do that, we might save billion of lives and improve the economy by drilling for oil, gas, building cars and making more beer…
Carbon emissions ‘will defer Ice Age’
Look up ^^ that’s a link stupid, click it
Comments (58)
Nah, let’s just leave it alone and keep warming the globe. If it gets too hot and billions of people die that wouldn’t be a bad thing. Since extinction is the best possible thing that could happen to the human race (because extinction is the only ultimate solution to all of humanity’s problems and suffering), we should keep warming the earth and bring us closer to what should be our ultimate goal.
(Before you jump down my throat, rest assured I reject the notion of man-made global warming, though I wasn’t kidding about our own extinction.)
I hear ya. I’ve always supported global warming. There’s a reason why people take vacations to Florida in the winter – CUZ THE COLD SUCKS!
Wow Trun… I hope you’re joking, why make things worst. What we need is dependency on something less carbogenic. Anyways, nothing could stop an ice age, not pollution, not a nuclear explosion, not God. Whoever said an ice age is comming is using a scare tactic. The end of the world is near and there seems to be at least ten ways of it happening.
I had to look up for the link. I am stupid and I am ashamed.
I am no global warming nut but it probably isn’t a bad idea to pick up after ourselves. Say you let your house go. You never clean up after yourself and you let garbage sit around the house. Diseases would set in. It would be a gross place to live.
The same goes with our planet. I am not sure I get into the hype of global warming but the Earth is going to get pretty bad if we make no effort to pick up after ourselves.
but i thought god said he was going to destroy the earth by fire?
What crazy thing will they come up with next?
And don’t forget the best solution to global warming – get your gear off!!
@TheTheologiansCafe - But that is not what carbon emissions are about. They are in no way a pollutant. The USA has some of the cleanest air on earth, but we are the worlds second worst emitter of carbon dioxide
@RulerofMasons - An Ice age is coming there is no one who knows what they are talking about who would say anything else. And yes we are overdue for one
@Composing_Life - Yep gong to burn op our little snowball
@Urban_Peril -
@mtngirlsouth - If you can imagine it they will thing of it
@PlatotheSmurf - You should be
@SKANLYN - Exactly lets start the bonfires
@secretbeerreporter - Freezing works just as well I think
@trunthepaige - *Closes eyes and imagines real hard that all the leftists learn true logic*
@trunthepaige - Oh it does. But freezing weather means I can’t show off my shapely runners’ legs. :-/
@trunthepaige - You’d think finding a crowd that I fit in with would lessen my self loathing.
@mtngirlsouth - Its was just like imaging world peace, or whirling peas, or something like that
@PlatotheSmurf -
@secretbeerreporter - I understand when i had a swimmers 6 pack the thought of cold water upset me
@trunthepaige - I know! I know! We just need to take away all the guns, and teach men not to rape. And while we’re at it, just begin when they are children and teach ALL the people to be good and kind, not steal or be violent, and all the wars will end and so will murder and crime!
@mtngirlsouth - Think about it, if men can rape men women are definitely on the list. And if women had penises they would be raping too, scary world.
I like what my cousin, who has the Master’s Degree in Eco. Engineering or some such thing. My cousin says, “I hate the term global warming.” The fact is the earth is colder in some places than it used to be, and hotter in other places than it used to be.” Yes there are icebergs melting faster, but there are icebergs freezing harder. There are even places on the same iceberg that are getting hotter, while other places on the same iceberg are getting colder. My cousin says he also doesn’t buy the whole “save the forests” movement, but few talk about “save the wet lands.” My cousin is under the impression that small areas of wet land sequester more CO2 emissions than huge forests. I guess forests are just more sexy than a bunch of green stuff covered with water.
I have actually heard a way to do the green thing without being a communist. Check out the 90 by 50 moment. The greening of New York city. It’s no the greens I despise, it’s the Marxist that too them over I can’t stand!
90 percent reduction by the year 2050..
Roast some green weenies at that barbecue!!!
@mtngirlsouth - It just takes a good education, if only we spent more on teachers we would have a perfect world
@Such_are_you - Forests, we used to think of them as a slow growing crop. we would get these Seattle tree hungers walking out in the woods talking about needing to preserve forests like the one they were in. They always looked shocked when you told them they were walking in a tree farm and that it had been cut twice before and was on its third growth
@trunthepaige - It’s not about saving the earth it’s an excuse to push people around. It’s all just tyranny wearing the skin of altruism. No doubt we, as people of faith, should do what is right, and encourage the world around us to do what is right. The world is God’s creation and being a good steward over that world is very important, but we don’t have to lord it over people. And we don’t have to give in to tyrants no matter how right they claim their position.
I for one do not believe in global warming, but if it happens then I want to colonize Antarctica and found a new country away from all the liberals. Maybe I will name it Ambrositopia, after myself, and we will all defend it with guns. So if anyone tries to come and occupy us we can put up a worse resistence than the Muslims in the Middle East, and if they nuke us then, well, at least they won’t be able to settle there themselves any time soon.
Global warming is actually a confluence of forces that seem to be getting ready for a change. What is actually causing climate changes is up for grabs, the sun, natural cycles, the industrial revolution, you name it, but one thing not many people are hearing about these days is the massive weakening of Earths magnetic field. This usually precipitates a reversal of the magnetic poles which also coincide with ice ages. Our carbon emissions have tipped the scale which was already naturally imbalanced and is causing it to accelerate. At no time in the last 450k years has the global temperature risen as fast as it has in the last 40 years. Carbon emissions are not the reason everything is happening though, it is more like a bird thrown into a jet engine, the engine exploding is global warming. If ocean temperatures continue to rise, plankton is at risk. When the plankton is gone, then you’ll see some serious shit.
@brown_buffalo - We really do not know is the most honest answer. There are a lot of reasons to be as efficient and clean as possible. Fear of CO2 is well sort of silly as its about the most harmless thing we do to the earth. The only practical, short term (50 years) cure for increased carbon involves a fast reduction in population. The original computer models that got this debate started, all said that is not fast enough. Fortunately those original models have already proven themselves to be wrong. Clean and efficient is good. But starving ourselves to be that way is well … what is the point of that
I posted a couple of blogs about the global warming problem:
http://hunt4truth.xanga.com/771600712/
Sea levels rising although not evenly, occurred for about 100 years. Mahé Perrette of the Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research in Germany modeled effects and calculated what the sea rises for 2000 to 2100 may look like for the entire planet. The global average rise will be between 11 and 42 inches. Tropical seas may rise 10% or even 20% more. Polar seas will not rise as much. Cities on the coasts around the Indian Ocean will be hardest hit, but Japan, South-east Australia and Argentina will also face overwhelming conditions. Some land is sinking, some is rising. Strong currents will create slopes on the sea’s surface and this will exert a gravitation pull causing more ice sheets lead to a fall in the sea — raising level suddenly in their surrounding areas.
I haven’t read about the ice age.
However, I read lots about the corals. The ongoing destruction of corals is due to both global warming to a degree and even moreso is occuring because of polution.
The loss of corals is already having an impact. Plankton and the food chain already are disrupted.
@trunthepaige - Carbon dioxide is a powerful greenhouse gas. Just because in proper levels it’s beneficial, doesn’t mean that in large quantities it’s harmful. It can hold heat in the atmosphere which causes a rise in global temperatures which ‘trigger’ other things like methane gas from melting permafrost, and if ocean temperatures rise enough, the methane trapped by pressure in the ocean can ‘turn over’ and flood the atmosphere with massive amounts of methane which is perhaps the most powerful green house gas. The point is balance. A brief look at carbon emissions the past 50 years should tell us the obvious, we’ve altered the balance.
@brown_buffalo - But we have not altered it past anything that the earth has not seen before and we are not likely to be able to do that, its not even close. the conclusion that we are about to see negative results is simply a guess. The models that you are bring up have missed their short term marks, But as you said other things are effecting the climate as well. What i said about being past due for an ice age, that is not in contention. So if the models are correct would not the warming be beneficial? It would take far more warming that is being predicted to kill off plankton. The bloom might move some but it would not end. And increases in CO2 are simply fertilizer to plankton.
@brown_buffalo - I am sure you know the reversing poles is not caused by anything man can control. SO if that is the cause of Ice Ages then one is coming and all this talk of that gas that plants love so much is silly. The truth is an Ice Age is coming and we are very overdue. Could our warming the atmosphere stop it? Well if the theories of man cause global warming are true, then yes and that would be a good thing because its not a theory that we are overdue for an Ice Age. That is a fact
@Hunt4Truth - Coral is more a pollution issue. For as long as we are not in a ice age the seas will be rising. They have been rising for about 20,000 years
Google Agenda 21.
@saturnnights - Oh I know about sustainability. Its best to avoid treaties as much as possible
@trunthepaige - There are a lot of factors, but still, I don’t see anything changing at least in time to seriously do anything about it. I expect things to get intolerable to humans, at least 6.8 billion of them, by 2050. I won’t be around by then.
@brown_buffalo - If you did not think the world was going to end for humanity soon, you be unusual. every society in every time seems to think they are last. and they have all been wrong so far. When it happens it will be dumb luck and not genus that gave them that idea
@trunthepaige - Well, I think when you see correlation, you mistake it for causation, nearly every time. My prediction is based on world wide food supply from the ocean and land. I think by the year 2050, we will not be able to keep up due to climatic changes. We’ll never see the ice age that may or may not be coming. The magnetic field swap coincides with ice ages relatively, but there is no evidence that it causes anything. There is much more evidence that a confluence of things cause global warming and we are a part of that whole. Not a good time to have an industrial revolution in other words.
@brown_buffalo - Actually that is what the entire CO2 based climate change theories are all about. Thy assume the collation between the two means CO2 is the cause. Man will over burden the planet soon theory has been around far longer than you have been alive and its always a well thought out and researched scientific position. They just keep moving the date forward every time they are wrong. its like an biblical end times prediction they keep coming up with them and they are never right.
@brown_buffalo - CO2 is good. It’s plant food. Doesn’t plant food help combat deforestation?
You know it when it gets cold in southern Florida! There are more tornadoes then ever, hurricanes, snow, varied temperatures that change so rapidly. Millions upon millions already have been evacuated to return homeless, and billions of dollars in repairing what has been destroyed.
We need more gun control. Guns emit gases when fired. Guns cause global warming. Global warming makes people hot and sweaty in the summer, then they get in a bad mood and shoot their neighbor. That causes more global warming. It’s a vicious cycle. More gun control now.
@DougX831 - Good science that is
@PlatotheSmurf - there is no shame in not understanding global warming as long as you have a good fan or better good fans..
@PlatotheSmurf - Plants use co2 in photosynthesis, but it’s also a greenhouse gas. Too much of it and it traps heat reflected from the planet. Heat that would otherwise escape into space.
@trunthepaige - Predictions being wrong has nothing to do with reality. Therefor it makes no sense to judge the science on predictions which are not the classical method of science. Most of these predictions you refer to are just people like us talking. I don’t think scientists have predicted anything based on actual science, but rather they speculate as professionals. Personally I think they should have stuck to saying soon, but people say things they shouldn’t.
None the less, what I’ve seen in the midwest for the last several years has me plenty worried about farming. We are 20″ behind in rainfall and the storms just bring destruction. We might all be thanking Monsanto no matter what they’ve been doing with chemicals.
@brown_buffalo - They were wrong because there were things they did not take into account. There are always those things not taken into account when the subject is apocalyptic. Seems reason enough to not take the next prediction so seriously. But it is human nature to want to believe they are the last generation
@brown_buffalo - CO2 content in the Earth’s atmosphere is minuscule. The reason it is minuscule is because the Earth’s ecosystems and geological systems trap it in biomass and rock.
The greenhouse gas with the greatest content in Earth’s atmosphere is water vapor.
Man-made global warming is a farce because it requires the rejection of scientific knowledge. Belief in global warming requires that a person return to a superstitious, pre-modern mode of thinking.
Does anyone wonder about the impact of chemical geoengineering? We at times are being sprayed with what seems like a canopy of haze that appears to me to resemble a greenhouse effect.
@saturnnights -
I read an article recently about the Air Force practicing geoengineering to control the weather since the 1950′s. It also talked about hurricane Sandy being a result of some of this more recent geoengineering.
Have you seen the huge “spider web” like chem trails used to “zeed” rainfall?
They say the permafrost melting is releasing a huge amount of methane and global warming is going to progress much faster than previously thought.
To talk of global warming as an independent cause of apocalyptic doom seems sort of moronic. One factor in a global ecosystem composed of thousands of variables. I believe overpopulation of the human species is the most significant problem we face. No matter what new energy resources we can come up with there is no sating endless greed. 90% of the ocean’s predatory fish are gone. The extinction of species is growing at an alarming rate. Hanford nuclear reservation has leaked an estimated over one million gallons of highly radioactive waste. Protecting a nuclear reactor from flooding with a huge rubber dike? What about the rampant spread of invasive species disrupting habitats. Urban sprawl?
Sorry, I should go write my own blog. Smile
@LannyBudd - I’ve seen many different types including, have seen webbing on the ground. We get hit hard in s/w Michigan for some reason.
This is very funny. I hope our children don’t read this and see that we are jkonig about their future.By the way when did the U.S. National Academy of Science become liberal? I missed that.