February 28, 2013
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She is such a Wh0re
What purpose is served by ridicule?
Why would you hate a Christian for their faith?
Why would you try to hurt them and insult them
Do you hate atheists?
Do you call them or anyone else names?
Why do we hurt each other?
Comments (66)
Ego!
Because it lessens the pain in ourselves?
Wait… these are trick questions, aren’t they?
I do not hate atheists. But some of them sure do know how to push my buttons, and frustrate me to the point of rage. (Although that is getting much less as I realize this is God’s battle and not my own.) And I have also noticed sometimes the minute I bring my faith into the equation a certain hostility. Used to be I figured it was due to the massive bad examples out there, but not these days. Now I think that is just an excuse for something deeper – because these same people do not let bad examples turn them against things they like/want. I am getting more and more to a place where I can perfectly understand why God will harden their hearts for them.
I don’t discriminate. I hate everyone equally.
If you’re hurt by ridicule then the problem is with you not the ridiculer. Sticks and stones, that sort of thing. Either way ridicule can be a source of great humor and laughter is the best medicine, is it not?
I don’t usually initiate hate in the form of meanness to other people. I’m disgustingly nice, but especially at work because I’m paid to be, and I take pride in my job. Even so, I usually keep my moral judgments of others to myself unless provoked or necessary to dispel. Secretly I have a fiery temper, even though I am cute as a corgi and sweet as blueberry pie (:
@mtngirlsouth - As an Atheist, I can attest that hostility from Atheists to you for your religion is not due to a lack of belief, but a lack of character. These are usually the same people who choose to worship secular idols, like the government (who shouldn’t ever be questioned). I tend to find Agnostics even worse though, probably because their personal awareness, ambiguous and uncertain, is constantly threatened by incoming information. Many Agnostics seem to be leftists, and the vast majority of leftists are moral cowards, which goes hand-in-hand with Agnosticism. The remaining leftists are just ignorant, which when in regard to such pertinent issues as politics is a moral crime in itself.
@DrummingMediocrity - Like ayn rand, you are an atheist hands down, but you do realize that not many people would label themselves “I absolutely am sure there is no supreme being.” And that in itself is a crime.
It is a crime to look at life and rule out the possibility of magic. My guess is that it is a control issue, the moment you put God into the equation, your mind becomes fearful. It could be daddy issues. And if you are not that open to a father authority, it will show in your way of life.
if you call a racist “A NAZI” they don’t get upset.
if you call a sexist “A CAPITALIST PIG” they don’t get upset.BUT, if you call a Nazi, “A NAZI!” they go bonkers;and if you call a racist, “A RACIST!” they want to poke your eyes out;and if you call a sexist, “A SEXIST!” they want to push you under the bus.BECAUSE TRUTH HURTS.
you you you…. CHRISTIAN !
@RulerofMasons - Not only are you a troll, but an incoherent one at that. I don’t like you, so please go away.
i do not hate atheists. i spout off in defense because i perceive they are on the attack. that is my own weakness and lack of confidence. we hurt each other out of jealousy or character flaws.
@mtngirlsouth -
nice job.. you can do it… You’ve got that right about it being God’s domain
@DrummingMediocrity - I think you probably said that the atheist(s) that would ridicule [religious] “are the same people who choose to worship secular idols, like the government (who shouldn’t ever be questioned).” Am I right?
While I have your attention: What is ”I tend to find Agnostics even worse though, probably because their personal awareness, ambiguous and uncertain, is constantly threatened by incoming information. Many Agnostics seem to be leftists, and the vast majority of leftists are moral cowards, which goes hand-in-hand with Agnosticism. The remaining leftists are just ignorant, which when in regard to such pertinent issues as politics is a moral crime in itself.” to do with (hurt, ridicule, insults, name calling, etc.)?
How would you classify what ruler-of-masons said? You may certainly skip this question if you prefer. How about what mortimerZilch said? Do you think that mortimerZilch is a troll?
@Composing_Life - If “they” were on the/an attack, would you think that was to hurt you?
I wonder about defenses. You say you recognize that you “spout off” as a result of “your own weakness and lack of confidence.” Do you feel that you do so because of pent-up anger or sadness at an injustice? Must the atheist conform to your values or mores (sounds like more-raise)? Would you consider venting in another manner if you were face to face? Would you ever consider keeping to yourself in the company of others that are atheists if they were not “known” to be safe? If not, what would you picture yourself doing with them (in their company, say at an all day seminar?
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You certainly may choose not to answer any of my questions. It isn’t any of my business. You may know that I am a devote Christian. I am also a teacher and a psychologist.
@DrummingMediocrity - This did not show up in my feed so i’m glad I saw it! Thank you again. It is refreshing the get this kind of feedback from an atheist. It is people like you that give me a little hope. It is so good to see honesty in a person, it being so rare these days even among so-called Christians. Especially after last night when someone tried to use my personal rape experience as a way to hurl knives.
The thing that gets me being a former Christian of 25+ years, is seeing people like you who say you’re Christian, yet display willful ignorance and stubbornness to any one else’s position but your own. You’ve been trying to incite people for popularity on Xanga. I can only speculate about your motives, but you believe in a God that looks on the heart, so what does he see?
@brown_buffalo - What you are doing is called projection. What can I do with a guy who takes what I have been saying these last posts as ether an appeal to popularity or an insult. To both you could not be less accurate. My not agreeing with you does not equal ether me being wrong, or at all close minded. If you had been looking I did not disagree with all of the other opinions including some from other atheists. 100% disagreement, well of the people who actually had a lot to say, you are the only one who agreed with nothing I said, including things that are simply facts.
Yeah Paige. You are exploring popularity in a social network that no one has heard of.
@RulerofMasons - Just so I’m clear… You don’t actually believe that you’re relevant here, or that anyone gives a fuck what you think, right?
@MyxlDove - No they are not and I agree with you
@mtngirlsouth - Insults and being denigrated causes rage. Its hard not to hate at that point. If only for a minute its hard not to hate. Hate breeds hate
@secretbeerreporter -
@SKANLYN - That is a fact with on line discussions. Keep your skin thick and humor ready to go
@DrummingMediocrity - Wow … that was blunt and honest
@mortimerZilch - Okay well you got me I am not offend so my faith must be weak
@Composing_Life - I agree with that. I beleive that is why we use ridicule. Okay maybe I am sometimes a bit sadistic
@Hunt4Truth - And you ask hard question … good ones in other words
@mtngirlsouth - It is people like her who remind me that stereotyping is a bad idea
@TheTheologiansCafe - LOL yeah it seems that way. I cant even get the better 15 to 21 year old writers and bloggers to come here. Instead they go to sites with little readership and complain about it. Why not xanga? And these girls like and respect me but they will not come here.
@DougX831 - The same could be said of you truck boy. Just because people agree to give value to your words don’t mean a thang. And to answer your question, I truly believe Trun cares what I have to say, she’s not gang mentality like white apes like you. Have a hot dog, fries, and ketchup, it is guys like you with that bully mentality that instigate and condone violence. Too bad you will never get a chance to do lynching of your own mr kkk.
@RulerofMasons - Hahahahahaha, so now I’m racist? That insinuation is predicated on what, exactly?
Go take your meds, dumbass.
@RulerofMasons - @DougX831 -
It is great of you guys to give an example of my topic
It wasn’t unintentional
@DougX831 - I am sure it wasn’t
@Hunt4Truth - my mate is also going to be a psychologist – i will copy/paste your questions into a post because it is more personal there.
one question i feel comfortable answering here is “Would you ever consider keeping to yourself in the company of others that are atheists if they were not “known” to be safe? If not, what would you picture yourself doing with them (in their company, say at an all day seminar?”
i would love to be at such a place with them because it would give so many opportunities to say what i also believe. perhaps one of them might ask me more questions and the ultimate reward for the day would be leading someone to the lord.
“You must dive deep into the sea to get the pearls. What good does it do to dabble among the waves near the shore and assert that the sea has no pearls?”
~ Sai Baba
Some people just can’t see past their own personal space.
@Urban_Peril - That really is a truth. Wisdom
the trolls won
Paige, thank you for taking the time to open a ‘new’ forum. This sort of dialog is not foreign to me. Admittedly though, I have not much ever seen anything like it ongoing for days as this happened. Our back and forth was very good for me today. Thank you for that too. I today grew in patience and tolerance and wisdom. I need a blog for Xanga tomorrow. Maybe I’ll resurrect one of the used ones because I seem to have many that are incomplete and I seem to like it that they may rest as is for a day. Night.
Hunt
It seems humans hate what is different from who they are. Why? The only answer I can come up with is “human nature”. Maybe it is our curse to be human. It takes a lot to control that within us and let the compassion come through.
@trunthepaige - That not only is a truth, but the whole essence of human failing!
@ShimmerBodyCream - I believe people ridicule each other because they r not secure and happy with themselves, people r brought up to believe certain things and I feel u cant believe in anything until u believe in yourself.. It basically fills up the voids in which is in all of our lives everyone has once ridiculed and been ridiculed by others no one is perfect! I do believe that if everyone just stopped judging people by what they look like what they believe etc then u would realize some people u ridicule aren’t much different from ourselves!
Many religions teach a “holier than thou” attitude. All the non-believers go to hell.
Clearly ridiculing others makes the ridiculer feel like the bigger man, and if successful, the ridiculee feels like curling up in a corner and dying.
Why do you let people bother you? Enjoy the hate. Ann Coulter says that if you don’t reduce a liberal to a mindless sputtering rage then you aren’t doing it right.
@apyus - That’s how it looks to me.
@DrummingMediocrity -And government is about as worthy of worship and admiration as those tics that used to get on my dog and swell to the size of small grapes (yes I know that’s disgusting, but the analogy is perfect), and our current government is about as useful and healthy for us as they were for my dog.
@RushmoreJ - Being insulted by what others believe a person needs to do or be to go to heaven. And using that as an excuse for hate or anger. That would show a great deal of personal insecurity don’t you think? I do not find the teachings of Islam insulting to me. Muhammad did not know me, nor was he addressing me personally. Chaospet thinks you and I are soulless bio machines who have no real minds of our own. No free will., He says you are nothing and will go nowhere you do not really even think for yourself. He believes that about everyone. I would be a very insecure person to find that insulting. But the thought of eternal serration from God, is not worse that being thought of as a mindless, soulless chunk of self replicating meat
@Thatslifekid - That is the sick part. The goal is to really hurt the other person
@Ambrosius_Augustus_Rex - Me they never hurt I have a very thick shin and it’s not as if these are loved ones. But I have seen this stuff hurt people, and it is done intentionally where it can hurt people. Hurting is the goal
@brown_buffalo - Or maybe you come to her page to get some spillover to your own. It’s not fair to say that her dismissing or rejecting your positions or arguments makes her wilfully ignorant. Based on what I have seen from your page it just looks like you are a hatchetman for the left, or maybe just the Democrats. I saw your entry on gun control and not only is it entirely predicated on subjective arguments and laden with emotion, but it also shows a gross misunderstanding of the Constitution and the ideological basis upon which this country was founded.
Pathos based arguments do not need to be taken seriously or even acknowledged when matters of fact are being discussed. If you tried to debate with me in the same fashion that you tried to debate with our host then I would be hard pressed not to dismiss you with a handwaive.
@trunthepaige - Yes it is their goal, and the reason they do it is because they cannot defend their position with facts and logic, so they go for irritation. Trolls will be trolls.
@DrummingMediocrity - Didn’t you threaten me with an assault rifle?
i don’t hate Christians for being Christian. i hate people for being douchebags. it’s just unfortunate that, for many Christians, they use their faith as an excuse to be douchebags to non-believers.
@trunthepaige -
“That would show a great deal of personal insecurity don’t you think?”
as a non-Christian, i do not see how Christians can believe in eternal damnation without supporting it explicitly. by choosing to be Christian, you’re agreeing with its judgments. meaning… if you really think i’m going to Hell, then you must not think very much of me as a person. if you think highly of me, why would you believe that i deserve to suffer for eternity? so yes… i think it’s a great reason to be angry towards someone. using your faith as an excuse for your opinions of someone doesn’t make those opinions any less insulting. even when i was Christian, i did not believe in Hell because i love non-Christians as much as myself, and i could never have worshiped a deity who’d punish them for their beliefs, or lack thereof.
@flapper_femme_fatale - Really that is some contorted reasoning. If I believe that smoking will kill you and you smoke, I am not wishing cancer on you. If you do not want to be with God, if you do not believe in God. His not forcibly making you spend eternity with him is your doing. My believing that is true, is no more my cursing you and hoping bad things for you. Than you smoking yourself to death. I hate the idea that driving 200 miles and hour can get me killed. But my deciding that I do not believe that doing that can kill me, is not going to change a thing. You wanting to believe what you do, has zero effect on reality. If you want to blame me and call me bad for these things, well whatever. There is nothing I can do about it and I feel no guilt about it
Sometimes we (human beings in general) misplace our anger on others because we couldn’t find a resolution with the person who first made us angry. So atheists or christians can take out their anger from dealing with one atheist/christian on the next atheist/christian they see. I admit to doing this in the past, I will be shorter with someone asking a question or making an objection or criticizing my worldview if they’re the 20th person I’ve dealt with doing the same thing. We all take some of the flack for the pain and aggravation others cause people in life.
@trunthepaige - your belief in the afterlife doesn’t have the same scientific evidence backing it up as cancer research and studies on car accidents.
since you chose to be Christian, i don’t see why you would make that choice unless you found joy in every aspect of the faith. perhaps i’m the only person who would reject faith out of the concern for others.
@tendollar4ways - No, I let you know that my boyfriend owns them and knows how to use them when and if necessary. Don’t be so paranoid. But do shave that pedophilic mustache.
@Ambrosius_Augustus_Rex - Yep, I think parasitic is the word you’re looking for (;
@Hunt4Truth - I spoke of avoiding meanness to individuals, but did not mean to imply
that I save judgments from groups of people. Individuals are much more
vindictive than collectives, particularly collectives of communists. On
related note, condemning immorality is not “mean,” “ridicule,” or
“hurtful” unless the condemned decide their feelings are more important
than the truth.
@DougX831 - Thanks for standing up for me. I figured you forgot I exist.
@DrummingMediocrity - I didn’t know your real name was Delilah. I would lose all my power and more importantly my sexiness if I shaved my mustache. Besides, it would be disrespectful to my stylist who put alot of effort into turning it the perfect platinum color without being too brittle.
@trunthepaige - WOW. I started to say pretty much the same thing, but decided not to because it does no good. But I still get just flabbergasted at some of the logic I see displayed by people who believe they have logic on their side. It is astonishing to me how many different aspects this whole mindset from politics to religion completely ignores reality when coming to conclusions.
@mtngirlsouth - It tends to go like this …
The desire to drink is universal. Water exists
“No its not universal! Some people drink beer and energy drinks. And how do you explain fish smarty pants”
@flapper_femme_fatale - So what you are saying is that your hate is good. Okay well whatever
@agnophilo - Amen
@trunthepaige - Yup, yup, yup. Here’s one I love……”Science will figure it out, we just don’t know it yet” is okay (faith in “some day science) BUT “I don’t know that but I am sure God had His reasons” is childish and simplistic.
@DrummingMediocrity - Sometimes I get protective and jump on someone for picking on a gentle soul. You do not need the help
@mtngirlsouth - When you point out that they have taken a leap of faith they just lose it.
@trunthepaige - How ironic : )
@trunthepaige - If something like 10-20% of people didn’t drink water or feel thirsty then pointing that out would be valid if the premise of your argument is that thirst is universal.
@mtngirlsouth - It’s irrational to claim to know for a fact that science will explain something, but not unreasonable to wait for or seek an explantion. Also science has a pretty good track record of answering most questions not too long after they’re asked.
@trunthepaige - Ironic that you’re having a round robin of ridiculing and generalizing about atheists in a blog that begins “what purpose is served by ridicule?” Me thinks there’s a plank in your eye.
Oh and note that not one atheist has lost it.
@agnophilo - I ridiculing styles . And you must admit those styles are worthy of it. If it is not personal, I would not take offense when you do it ether. Maybe quoting the bible to prove a scientific point? That is not the brightest move and worthy of being laughed at. .
@trunthepaige - Styles? Debate styles you mean? And I’m not horribly offended and am more poking fun at you, but for what it’s worth you did generalize.
@agnophilo - Of course I did. And style is a bad word for it anyway. I am just not sharp enough tonight to label it better.
@trunthepaige - where did i say i hated anyone? it’s more an issue of trust.
@flapper_femme_fatale - I am happy its not hate but considering the subject it looked like you were excusing disliking someone for being a Christian.
@trunthepaige - ohhhh. no, i don’t hate anyone. the opposite of love isn’t hate, it’s apathy.
i suppose it comes down to how much other people matter to me. even if i could be compelled to believe that the Christian god exists, i’d reject Him if He plans to send my loved ones to Hell just for believing something differently.
but that depends on how you view Hell. if it’s fire and brimstone, then God is punishing someone for their beliefs, which i find fascist. if it’s simply an absence of God, then it can’t be any worse than the daily life of a non-Christian, since we’re presently rejecting God.
The answer to most of the questions is habitual abusive behavior.
“100% of humans are abusive.” ~Non-violent Alternatives~