March 29, 2013
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Gay Marriage or War?
In the news the last few day North Korean has been threatening war. Moving it artillery and troops up the border and aiming its missiles at US bases in Hawaii, Guam and South Korea. And yes they do have missiles that can do it and nuclear weapons
No one seems to even know this is going one all the talk is about a long running drama in the USA call gay marriage
Is nuclear war an insignificant issue compared to gay marriage?
Or are the people of the USA horribly uninformed about anything outside of its borders, and most things inside of them?
Unless those things involved celebrities or the issues that celebrities care most about. Legalization of weed, gay marriage, etc.
You can go back to pop culture and other stupid subjects. Its only war, nothing important at all really.
Comments (68)
It just Fox News reporting it probably,that means it isn’t true right? Your new layout is cool,but the print is hard to read because it runs together.
I don’t know what the most important things are in this nation, but I am positive the people, government and media are not addressing it/them.
I would start wit the huge debt! If we do not fix that, nothing else will matter.
My opinion.
frank
I think civil rights are a pretty big issue, and the North Korea thing was the front page on most major news sites the last time I checked. I don’t think anyone in the US is taking North Korea as a real threat. They are just throwing a tantrum again.
@ShimmerBodyCream - Sure it is so damn important. They have every right you do and can do everything but call themselves married. They make up 6% of the population and less than 10% of them have any interest in getting married themselves. Wow so important, it compares so well to nuclear war. And yes it is being reported but few seems interest in the subject.
Meh, I don’t care who nukes who. The human race is going to go extinct eventually. Better sooner than later.
In the meantime, I say make the LGBT’s miserable lives a little less miserable. It’s the least we can do for them.
@Rescued_by_grace - They are all reporting on it but but the people are not interested.
@secretbeerreporter - You being a lover of human death this is all good news for you
@trunthepaige - Gay marriage is talked about on social media because it’s more of a social issue. A lot of people have gay friends, or are gay themselves and are affected by not being able to be married. On the other hand, I would say North Korea is less of a social issue, and more of a political one because their posturing is seen largely as hollow gestures that aren’t a threat in reality.
My Facebook post about an hour ago,–”Okay, it’s almost show time. We have B2 Bombers in South Korea, doing ‘training exercises’ meant to intimidate Kin Jong Un. “On Friday, state media released a photo of Kim and his senior generals huddled in front of a map showing routes for envisioned strikes against cities on both American coasts.
Experts believe the country is years away from developing nuclear-tipped missiles that could strike the United States. Many say they’ve also seen no evidence that Pyongyang has long-range missiles that can hit the U.S. mainland.”
Meanwhile the Pentagon is worried Kim may put himself in a position where he feels he has to act on his threats.
I think we’re getting ready to nuke North Korea.
Popcorn anyone?”
And I was high all day, thank you very much.
I have been listening to this stuff on tv and am concerned. We have not heard more about it yet today and have been listening. I think it is important for everyone to make sure we have ourselves in order these days with this kind of threat hanging over our head.
Opps forgot to say, I like your new lay out.
@Grannys_Place - I love it chainbracelets did such a good job
@brown_buffalo - I love to criticizes you at times. But you are not someone I would ever bash as only knowing about pop culture. I knew this would be on your radar
@ShimmerBodyCream - More of something that die because of and ei by the millions. Its a social issue the actuality effects very very few people and doses them very little harm if any at all. Something to call important say when we are not on the verge of war when there is not much
In the 80′s movie “The Day After” the first part of the movie is just like we are talking about here…news reports of troop movements, missile deployments…daily life going on in the good old USA…more news reports of ratcheting up of military preparedness…ho-hum, bring the cows in, Elmer…then WHOOSH ZOOM off go the rockets…and ZIM BAM BOOM in come the rockets…. ever see that flick? Sounds just like today. Oh well. Live by the sword, die by the sword.
If you ask most Americans what they think about about North Korea’s threats, most will shrug. If you are truly worried about a nuclear war, the only thing you can really do is cross your fingers. I live day by day, and expect the worst at any given time. I would rather be incinerated by a nuclear explosion than to suffocate in a black plastic bag.
I really think that North Korea hitting U.S. installations on Guam, Hawaii and certainly the U.S. mainland is one of our lesser concerns. I see your source above stating that they can hit us in those places, but other sources of information contradict those claims. I’m more worried about being robbed walking out of my front door than the DPRK hitting us with nukes, at least right now.
The much bigger and more credible threat is them doing something on the Korean peninsula itself, be it with nuclear or conventional forces. As much talk as they like to talk about targeting the U.S. with missiles, I doubt that even they are crazy enough to think that they could pull off a nuclear attack on U.S. territory without being erased from human existence by a U.S. nuclear counterstrike before they could even assess the battle damage. Their best bet is a conventional invasion of South Korea, and that’s what we really need to worry about. Or, them getting creative and trying to sink a U.S. warship on the high seas.
As for gay marriage, I’m staying out of that mess of a debate. Regardless of how anyone feels about the morality or rightness/wrongness of gay marriage, the Supreme Court is ultimately going to find that Proposition 8 and DOMA are unconstitutional with respects to equal protection under the law. Regardless of how anyone may feel about if it is right or wrong, the Supreme Court is going to rule in favor of gay marriage because not doing so would legitimize discrimination against a group of U.S. citizens.
North Korea must be ready collapse. And our preoccupation with gay marriage in the face of his threats must be a severe loss of face for the young Kim rascal.
golly jeepers! don’t wake me from my slumber! i am like so looking forward to the gay marriage thingy happening. and my new kindle hd is so cool with all the greatest apps! and OMG, did you see kim kardashian’s BABY BUMP?? like, how can she even show her face! i totally want the new chromebook too and like – it’s only $249!! who is north korea? is that like way over there by japan or something? OBAMA ROCKS!
I knew about this.
The Korean boy is sure worse than his Dad, or does he want the world to believe that?
North Korea plays this game every year. Nothing will happen. And, unless they made some new leaps and bounds in missile tech that we’re not aware of, they don’t have anything that can reach Guam, Hawaii, or any US city.
What’s civil rights next to the Korean War? Women’s right to vote? Fuck that shit, we’re fighting World War I.
I think that North Korea is not even news worthy. I talked to a young lady once from South Korea and she told me that to them, NK is not even a big deal. They make empty threats, so they simply ignore them. North Korea would not want to bomb the US. The US will completely wipe them off the map unless of course China and Russia join in… in which case, it would get very scary.
Either way… Always pray for peace.
@jmallory - I always do
@Celestial_Teapot - Sure go ahead and make that comparison. Its stupid but so many are so uninformed that it works with most
He is no threat. We will blow him off the map.
@TheTheologiansCafe - Yes but that would be a very bad thing. And it only takes one crazy little guy to think we really do not mean it and he invades the south assuming we would not risk nuclear war over South Korea
Now that I think about it would we?
@SlickRick297 - You are a wise man. About Korea. I agree threatening the US might be more a ploy before hitting the south.
@coolmonkey - They do have the missises I am showing and Guam would be an easy target without any improvements in what they have now. Assuming that they would never attack, is assuming that think like we do. Have you ever watched
http:/videos/inside-north-korea/embed/
I’m praying for peace and maybe tonite I will confess my sins and pray for Jesus to remember me.
What happened to Armaggedon? Aren’t a bunch of nations supposed to go against Israel?
@PPhilip - Is there a reason for your mockery? Or does you lack of natural empathy make it so you do not know how shitty you just sounded? If so yeah that came across like you being a major ass
Rick read a news article to me a while back that got little attention about a missile they found in Alaska (pieces of it anyway) that was sent by North Korea. I found an article on it: http://rense.com/general35/ree.htm. That was ten years ago though. And the one he was reading to me was much more recent, just a few months.
Who knows who North Korea will pal up with against us though.
Marriage is not a civil right. Marriage is a civil responsibility. Even in ancient Greek culture males married. Even though during much of that time nearly 100% of the male population practiced homosexuality. There was a philosopher who said, “We have wives for the production of heirs, and we have boys and prostitutes for pleasure.” In every culture throughout time humans, whatever their sexual proclivity, have recognized marriage as both a responsibility to the personal family, and as a responsibility toward the larger societal family.
The break down of marriage isn’t due to anything LGBT persons have done. The breakdown of marriage and the breakdown in understanding of marriage as a civil responsibility is the failure of good old fashioned straight; one man, one woman marriage. It is also the failure of the Church to see and recognize the breakdown of the family. And the “fix” the Church has chosen to deal with any, who break the rules, is either condemnation, wholesale acceptance, or, increasingly taking the stance of “having no opinion” on important matters. The one who has the cure, but will not give it, for whatever reason, bears the most blame.
i think in a way north korea is itself not a real threat. but what the pentagon seems to not want to admit is that china can and most likely will back up north korea in a war with us. i think that it is dumb to ignore the threat. its not so much a matter of if they have nuclear weapons as of some numerical superiority. america is just not looking at the evidence from the first korean war and the other small border conflicts that have occurred there in the years since it ended
One can’t help but see the potential for nuclear war of late as a warning from our lord regarding the proliferating acceptance of gay marriage
@SKANLYN - You dog!!!!
First off, may I say I think your new profile layout is fantastic!
I don’t think the Korean tension is unimportant. In fact, it’s downright scary. And annoying? That little twisted man-child is proving to be more unhinged than his loony dad, and we have sat on our haunches and poo-poo’d his cries like a tantrum throwing two year old.
At the end of the day, he’s a tantrum throwing two year old with nukes. And we need to get rid of him. Like, NOW.
I don’t dismiss the civil rights case regarding marriage equality, either. I adore my homosexual friends. If they want to experience the misery that is marriage, I say let them. Then I can take them out, buy them a drink, and have someone to truly commiserate with. LOL!
The inability to call themselves married affects other more serious matters in their lives, such as benefits and so forth. Their partners are not recognized as legal ‘spouses’, therefore they cannot make the decisions that married couples make. It’s just a word, but it carries more than just a title with it. So for them, it is a major obstacle.
But Lil Kim? Yeah. We need to do something about him. Seriously.
@trunthepaige - He’s just a kid with the emotional maturity of one. I’m sure his advisers are trying to reason with him. I’m glad Iran is seeing all this. They may be next.
@trunthepaige - Let’s just say they can hit Guam. So what? As if anyone really cares about it. N Korea doesn’t have anything that can hit the continental US, so there’s no sense in fearmongering at the moment. S Korea lives under threat of artillery bombardment daily and even they don’t care as much as you do.
@coolmonkey - I am glad you are aware of their concerns. It must be nice to be better informed than the state department. They seem worried
@trunthepaige - I’ve been to Seoul Korea. Believe me, they don’t care.
@Midnight_Masochist - My complant is not that people are concerned about homosexual marriage but that subject will be dealt with very slowly and has been going on a very long time. It is not at all an emergency, no one is going to die over it and nothing we do will make whatever happens happen any faster than it will. War on the other hand is far more important now. And it might go very bad as soon as tonight. It would seem there would be more interest. Maybe it too is something where you really can not do anything about it. But it is life and death
@trunthepaige - I don’t disagree with you. North Korea has been a boiling pot of Dire Dooky for some time now, and I really hope the government is taking it more seriously than they appear to be. I live not far from one of the biggest military bases on the planet, so believe me, I’m not relishing conflicts of the nuclear variety…
Would you please stop this nonsense and tell us what Kim Kardashian is wearing today?
On another note. This drama happens each year with the combined exercises but it is about time for the little leader to get a clobbering, I think. A strike on their Nuclear facilities could be a good idea. Just say that an exercise went awry, or something.
OK – So little leader has just declared war on the south. Time to take his sabre and shove it where the sun don’t shine!!
the first half of what frank said.
The reason why news organizations (other than Fixed, perhaps) don’t play up more North Korea’s hyperventiliation is that they realize that nothing will happen. The ability to (perhaps) lob a missle or two at US territories and maybe (if they’re lucky, not a sure bet by any means based on previous tests) hit something is militarily insignificant compared to the annhilation that the US could wreak in a retaliatory strike. Everyone knows this, including the North Koreans. Their sabre-rattling is for internal domestic consumption.
-netnguy
@coolmonkey - I believe you they get used to it. The North Koreans have not shelled or torpedoed a ships since 2010. and south Korea only lost 30 houses and one ship and less than a 100 people then.
@trunthepaige - And I would agree that if you live in some obscure town and not in Seoul, then you might live in fear of a random artillery shell. But nobody there seriously believes it will ever escalate into all-out nuclear war. North Korea has absolutely no interest in fighting. This is political posturing, and they’ve been doing the eact same thing for decades.
I speak to some of my friends about this and they rather keep the subject quiet because no one likes to be political these days apparently. They all have more pressing issues like earning a living and supporting a family, so why burrow themselves in things that may never happen (or so they think.)
Some people say that it’s all bluff. North Korea simply wants attention. I don’t think people realize the implications of such actions and the repercussions of neglect on their part. WWIII is real and it’s going to happen when many people are going to be watching reality tv.
Regardless of whether it is going to happen, there should be some sort of conversation going on about these issues, but are constantly kept quiet. Discourse about our government’s actions and what is happening around the world keeps information going and symbolizes that everyone is informed about world events.
I can tell you one thing – other countries know more about us than we know about them. (Hard lesson learned when I was travelling in Costa Rica.)
@coolmonkey - I hope you are right but people have been getting killed more than just once in a while. Whatyou are taling about is the same as if the people of Los Angeles just sort of got used to the idea that Chula Vista is shelled by Mexico once in a while killing 30 or 40 people and ships get torpedoed once in a while, killing 50 more. They just get used to it and its only the little border cities and sailors
@Tooty_fruits - I find it embasing that I read British papers to see what is happening with the USA in Korea, the middle east and Africa. Yes most other nations seem better informed. Would we still even have so many men on the Korean border if we knew just how dangerous it really was? And if the South Koreans really are as lackadaisical about war is our presence there even helping? The south is the stronger nation now days.
I listen to MPR so I’ve heard about North Korea. I think that both issues are news worthy. Though just by going on FB, it’s pretty one-sided in favor of same-sex marriage and I haven’t heard a peep about NK on there. Which is unfortunate.
@firetyger - facebook is about as bad source of news as there is. but i think it is very acurarate for showing what is on most of our minds
@trunthepaige - I completely agree. It often depresses me because there is so much crap on there
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nice post
I wonder if we take the threat less serious because it isn’t as great of a threat on America? If Mexico was threatening us like N Korea I wonder how quickly we would do something. I also wonder if the way we treat N Korea is more softened because China is their ally and if it does get into the main stream media it could cause public pressure to do something?
This is the kind of thing that makes me wonder about, well, everything. Why are humans so territorial when we didn’t even instigate the creation and development of the earth. In my opinion owning land is just a state of mind, and rather than appreciating and enjoying it fully, people worry about another race walking on “their” land. Buildings, chemicals, pollution – none of these things can be taken out of the atmosphere as easily as it was put there. causing nuclear destruction isn’t going to benefit anybody. The earth is our life source, we need to treat it with more respect and care.
*end rant.
You’re the one who’s misinformed, though Kim Jong Un thanks you for your fear and your wish to spread the fear of nuclear war through the internet.
North Korea is constantly playing this game. It’s declared the armistice nul and void nine times in the last century. It’s cut the military hotline to Seoul at least twice this past decade. It’s constantly playing this game, hoping for attention.
The only time NK came close to war was two years ago when it shelled a bunch of outer islands and killed four people, two of them civilians. Before that, earlier in the year, NK bombed a South Korean navy vessel and killed 42 sailers. Immediately the South Koreans demanded war… and the NK backed off rapidly. “We’re sorry! We didn’t do it anyway! Let’s have peace talks!” They know where their poverty aid and Kim Jong Un’s money to buy Mercedes is coming from.
NK starts up the war talk this time of year whenever the UN tightens sanctions and the US and SK start military maneuvers. I’m not playing this game. NK can go fuck itself.
@trunthepaige - The state department is just trying to tell the country it’s doing its job. Really, nobody gives a fuck about NK because NK is so ridiculously poor. I’ve been to South Korea as well…. nobody’s worried over there. It’s dumb how the most powerful nation in the world is shivering in its boots over Kim Jong Un while South Korea, which is directly in its line of site, knows better when to be worried. South Korean merchants and business owners are STILL going over the border everyday to do business with this crazy talk going on. They know nothing’s gonna happen.
You. Chill.
i suppose really big gun control should be the first order of business. I think that the USA has given money to N Korea over the years to calm them down.. it started with his father and continues with the son.. hes basically trying to stop the embargos and get some cash.
Annnnnd Obama passed a law protecting Monsanto in the middle of it all too. Regular media is nothing more than to distract us from what’s really going on.
@strawberryfieldsgirl - That is the way its been for years. They might as well own the major media, no one asks “your highness” any hard questions
@phoebester - You do know that the North atauly atacks South Korea once in a while. It is so good that in Soul they only notice sinking ships and shelled towns if they are in them. That sounds just like us they have learned well.
@phoebester - You left out the torpedoed ship that killed 50.