April 9, 2013

  • My most Controversial Opinion

    The opinion I have that causes the most arguments is.

    I do not believe in staying quiet in order to keep the peace.

    I speak up when someone in “polite” company makes an ignorant statement about others. No I don’t stay quiet when you insult my faith, or maybe even someone else’s. Call someones faith a fairly tale, and you better be ready to explain why you are the fount of such wisdom. Prove it in other words. If you can’t prove it, and no one can, then you are just spouting your own little fairytale.

    Call someone an idiot, and be prepared to prove that you have done more than them, that you are even slightly more intelligent than they are. “What successful business did you ever run”? “. What was your GPA? And that was an ivy league collage you went to right?”.

    Why is it considered impolite, to confront the ignorant bores who insist on spouting such tripe?

    And despite my conservative politics, and hate for the murder of the unborn, I am very much a feminist. Do not denigrate woman around me. Or even let me hear about it latter. I will not be nice about it. And why should I be nice, when you insult me?

    Is is impolite to confront that big mouthed bore, the one we all know, who likes to spout their ignorant opinions?

Comments (48)

  • Say what you want around anyone you want, but don’t expect them to sit by idly and take your verbal abuse, especially when the conversation doesn’t directly involve you.

  • @secretbeerreporter - What is funny is that it is never me who backs down. Stupid bores are not used to being called on their stupid accusations. They mistake being loud for being intelligent. They basically run off when called on it. Then cry to their mothers that I was mean to them, when I did not let them attack without consequence.

  • What else is the Internet for other than calling out stupid people? I jest… sort of.

  • @trunthepaige - For me, I could care less what people say about me, my kind, or whatever behind my back. That’s their business, not mine. They can think what they want about me or any club or group I might belong to. I only get involved when some insult is directly hurled at me. That’s when I retaliate, and when I do the price could very well be more than they bargained for.

  • Depends on my mood, and what was said.

  • Was just having words with Agnophilo on Jmallorys site about human logic and it’s failures.I started to write a post on the topic but just don’t have time.maybe tonight,and maybe not.

  • Just wondering,why does it repeat words throughout the post?Or is it my computer not liking your theme and adding words hahaha

  • I totally went to an ivy league collage. It was much cheaper than Dartmouth or Yale.
    Like you said, loud is not equivalent to intelligent but intelligence does not constitute rightness either, it just helps you debate more brightly about the topic at hand.

  • I have often had problems keeping my mouth shit when someone says something stupid, I see your point. But there are still times and places when it is appropriate (I’m not going to argue against gun control with someone who lost a relative in the Newtown shooting). Also, there is tact, which I think you lack sometimes in your arguments… it’s one thing to be right, but you are often very abrasive in your presentation.

  • @kuai_le1011 -  or be very good at arguing even if you’re wrong. often people point to someone say that stupid idiot. as often as not their life accomplishments are not half about the person you’re calling idiots are. when you do that you leave yourself open to the fact that compared to them you look like the idiot. what a statement not backed up and its insulting I see no reason to be nice about pointing out that they look like the idiot

  • I love mixing it up here on Xanga.
    But in real life correcting people positively kills civility.

  • i agree, to an extent. i do believe that religious stories are no more truthful than your average fairy tale or ancient myth. it’s just my opinion.

  • @flapper_femme_fatale - I do not get the idea that you are ever a loud mouthed bore.

  • @ImNotUglyIJustNeedLove -  I agree but when they are being a loud mouth bore about it. They have it coming and it tends to shut them up

  • @SlickRick297 - When someone is being a bore, I do not mind pissing them off and shutting them up

  • @kuai_le1011 - Or be far better at being wrong

  • @thegunslingergirl - On line everyone does it.

  • @trunthepaige - You post this stuff from your phone?That would drive me nutz with my big fingers and crappy eyesite

  • Sure. This works on the Internet. But everyone knows you are more careful in real life.

  • @TheTheologiansCafe - Much more, I hope I made it clear I save being harsh for when dealing with a loud mouth. But I am not careful with them at all. Unless its a damn client. I hate that

  • Oh I don”t know. I have gotten lazy and if they want to argue and shout I just move on. I do think if a person knows the truth and has the facts to back themselves up, then they really should straighten out someone who is wrong.

  • @Grannys_Place - I tend to straighten them out when they are just being obnoxious about it. And mean, the “those people are idiots” sort of thing.

  • You are always so cryptic, I always get the sense that I am missing some inside information when I read your posts. However, nobody would ever call you a doormat!

  • You should take Karate Paige.I’ll bet you could rip some people to pieces once you had it down LOL

  • I don’t confront the dolt mostly to keep my personal annoyance levels low.

  • college? collage? hmm…. college.

  • I don’t think it is impolite to confront such people.

  • It’s not impolite at all, for example, someone in one of my classes called out on a person’s ignorant statement, the problem was that person didn’t understand why it was considered as an ignorant statement, and he tends to do that a lot anyway. Thing is, I tend to ignore him, but the class got very quiet and it was kinda tense moment.

    Luckily, the professor changed the topic.

    I think the problem is people don’t want to be in that kinda situation.

  • @trunthepaige - 

    I know that, but each time you do that, you’re crushing your own effectiveness to get your point across. When you shut somebody down like that, you’re only making yourself feel like a champ, but the person you just decimated doesn’t care about learning from any of your good ideas because they are too busy being pissed for being talked to like they are five. And rightfully so.

    Many of the rest of us who read/watch that happen just shake our heads and wonder if you’ll ever “get it”, that bashing people for having a different opinion than yours, even if it is misinformed, is, well, just dumb. For one thing, the person you address will probably not even pay attention to the information you present and will just hate you for being rude, and you will have succeeded in winning no arguments because people have lost interest in seeing you be mean. Secondly, it makes people like me wonder whats more important to you in these deeply intellectual discussions: getting your point across in a healthy debate, or trampling over people because they see things differently.

    You can have different opinions. There is (generally) nothing wrong with bringing up a conflicting opinion, but what matters is how you express it. Again, the word is tact. It’s not wrong or unusual to think that someone has a screwed up opinion, but that’s not an automatic reason to disrespect them. There are times to pull off the gloves, sure, but you do it so routinely that it’s lost it’s effectiveness… and it doesn’t reflect favorably on you. You may crack your knuckles reflecting on how awesome it was that you made someone look like an idiot (sometimes bragging about it later in a pulse), while many of us just shake our heads in pity, hoping that you will one day care more about being effective than being mean.

  • i agree, but feelings will get hurt, and problems will arise, and if ur willing to fight, fight for yours. but some battles are better not fought

  • @BoulderChristina - You are not someone I am afraid to get to know to well. So I regret that

  • @mrqtran - We need to have the wisdom to know what battles are worth fighting. I do not claim that I am always wise

  • @SlickRick297 - To be honest with you we are really not on the same subject. But I know were you are going

  • In a lot of ways I stand alone. I have almost a unique life experience, so when I come in contact with the poor dumb cluck who thinks he/she will correct me I’ve already dealt with their empty rhetoric dozens of times from many sources, for many years. There are none who can best me, because I know my subject matter backward and forward. People are just apathetic, and care only for their own selfish desires. A well educated opinion amounts to mass overkill.

  • @Such_are_you - To argue against your point of view on one subject I can think of. Well I have never seen anyone try it with you who had any reason to think they knew what they were talking about. Those few who would have an educated opinion, seem to leave you be out of respect. That says a lot

    Not that you argue much anymore, but I remember when you did

  • @trunthepaige - you say some pretty cool things lol. that should be quoted and remembered

  • @trunthepaige -  Yeah, I had an agenda, but it didn’t serve God. Had to shut it down. I was becoming mean and nasty like the gay and religious activists who always cheese me off.

  • @SlickRick297 - I totally agree with you :D

  • Hmm, I am in 100 percent of support on defending your faith. I think more people should be outspoken, and honest :) about who they are and what they believe in. I don’t think anybody’s belief’s should be shut out because that’s taking away someones right to believe what they want to believe.

    That’s why I think it’s wrong when people say that Christian’s shouldn’t be allowed to speak about their faith when atheists have their right to, and Buddhists. So I believe everyone should have a chance to voice their opinion about things. Doesn’t mean everyone is going to agree, but it does mean everyone keeps’ their rights to have their faith and their own opinions.

    People are allowed to support or not support gay marriage. People are allowed to support or not support abortion. People are allowed to CHOOSE so I do think it’s wrong when people get shut down for choosing what they believe is right lol.

    If that makes sense.. but yeah I do believe in tact. Soemtime’s it’s better not to even debate. For many reasons.. you may not “win” them but it’s also good that you are getting your opinion heard because you’re giving them a new way to see things :) and hopefully save the unborn I guess?

    But yeah I do think it’s good to say what you feel is right and etc.

  • i think it is the last part of your third paragraph that may cause most arguments, rather than the second paragraph/sentence/line…

  • we have a guy like that we call him peter Lejerk.

  • It’s not so much impolite as it is a waste of time. I don’t understand people’s obsession with what others think and believe (though it utterly fascinates me and I exploit whenever I can). If you want to believe in a fairy tale then believe in a fairy tale (assuming your faith in that fairy tale doesn’t require you to strap explosives to yourself and board the same plane as me). Whether or not someone can prove or disprove it is irrelevant. “Because I want to believe it” is as good a reason as any. If someone thinks you’re a moron because of it then either change all your opinions and beliefs to theirs or let them think what they want of you and move on with your life.

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